Re: Google and the South African Internet

of course, as Liam pointed out, your IOZ posting has kind of invoked the 
Streisand effect.

--Calvin

On 11/12/2015 11:30, [email protected] wrote:
> And I thought everyone had been thrown into the back of a police van.
>
> checkout http://ispa.org.za/code-of-conduct/take-down-guide/ - and 
> while they're not ISPA members, it gives you an idea of how to go 
> about things (if you have not already).
>
> --Calvin
>
> On 11/12/2015 11:23, Andre Coetzee wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:01:26 +0200
>> Liam Smit <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'd never heard of this until now... Talk about resurrecting a thread
>>> from dead...
>>> If you're unhappy about it then:
>>> 1.) Get MyBroadband to remove the forum post
>>> 2.) Get Google to remove the search result
>> the owner, [email protected] as well as the person who posted the
>> thread, is not interested in removing it, neither is anyone at
>> mybroadband.co.za
>>
>> Google says that they will not remove it as it is free speech.
>>
>> Legally, the main issue is not inaccurate, I was arrested.
>>
>> Is it fair? lets say you, a private person, Liam Smit, is not liked by
>> Sunday Times and you are pulled over for a normal routine traffic
>> stop...
>>
>> Is it cool for the Sunday Times to run front page, for MANY MANY YEARS
>> IN THE FUTURE: "Liam Smit pulled over by Police and then just that you
>> were pulled over, that nobody likes you and that all Ford drivers suck
>> eggs"
>>
>> Just because they can?
>>
>> Thing is Liam, until something bad/evil/unfair actually happens to you,
>> you will nto really appreciate this.
>>
>> Imagine trying to gain a small contract so that you can buy food for
>> your 4 year old little girl and 9 year old boy and you are told "sorry,
>> we do not want you to do the work because the police arrested you"
>>
>> Bias.
>>
>> It is normal - I would not hire myself either.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:08:00 +0200
>>> Andre Coetzee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> When I search my name on Google.com the 5th result is this:
>>>
>>> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/400259-Arrest-of-Internet-Personality-Andre-Coetzee 
>>>
>>>
>>> I was arrested in 2012 at my address and held for three days by the SA
>>> Police for refusing to pay a bribe to a police officer.
>>>
>>> The 'official' reason for my arrest inside a building at my address is
>>> "refusing to provide my address to a police officer"
>>>
>>> Charges which were quite obviously withdrawn as we still have a
>>> seemingly/sometimes functional legal system.
>>>
>>> and, other charges were of course made, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> Now go read the rubbish that 'mybroadband.co.za'/internet community
>>> publishes and http://google.com promotes as 'fact' or even closely
>>> relevant.
>>>
>>> Maybe I should have simply paid the bribe, the cop only wanted a few
>>> thousand rands as he confused me with someone else to begin with.
>>> Anyway, I digress.
>>>
>>> It is the contributions that everyone, including civil society, makes
>>> to South Africa that shapes what it is.
>>>
>>> Google views "mybroadband.co.za" as a "news" website and as seemingly
>>> has vast popular support by the community (including you) that
>>> represents the South African Internet.
>>>
>>> meanwhile, the truth is that 'mybroadband.co.za" is obviously not a
>>> "real" news website.
>>>
>>> But, you, the South African Internet users, and GOOGLE strongly
>>> supports this "website" for some unknown reason?
>>>
>>> The result of this 'trust" is that;
>>>
>>> Every time I meet someone new or try to do new business I find myself
>>> having to explain the post and thread on mybroadband.co.za
>>>
>>> I have nothing to do with mybroadband.co.za or that thread, except
>>> responding to it and subsequently deleting any account that I had
>>> there
>>>
>>> On the South African Internet we will either follow the Chinese model
>>> of running a type of intranet or the Russian model, the European
>>> model (which protects private people and privacy - and the sh1t
>>> published by this 'mybroadband' and marketed by Google.com about an
>>> "internet personality' (wtf??) will never fly.
>>>
>>> But maybe South Africans like the idea of an Intranet (like China) or
>>> security cops like Russia? or what?
>>>
>>> Andre
>>>
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