Re: Google and the South African Internet

Kieran Murphy <[email protected]> Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:51:15 +1100
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.ioz
Message-ID <CAF_yWZLvfVebmdadcuDScxTvp_5PqxAoP4ywR9FM3E2jr2n3Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Alrighty then.
This _has_ been fun.

I just need a few things cleared up in this thread (and I'm sure I'm not
the only one).

What was the original purpose of this "discussion"?
So far everyone has been able to give you suggestions to deal with this
issue
- Get over it
- Get lawyers involved
- Get a PR company involved
- Send an ISPA takedown notice (since MyBroadband are ISPA members)

I think that pretty much covers the whole spectrum of options available to
you.

But none of these seem satisfactory?

So the real question then is why did you really bring this up? What's your
end-game?
What do you want to hear from this community that will finally vindicate
you?

We get it, you have opinions. You have your unique way of seeing things and
coming to your own conclusions. You seem to like to share these with
people. Not only that, you prefer to enforce these opinions on them,
aggressively.
You call it rudeness or obnoxiousness, I have other words for people who
behave like this (which I will not be sharing publicly).
You claim you accept that sometimes you're wrong, but so far we've seen
none of that.

Guess what? everyone else on this list has their own opinions too. You're
no special little snowflake.

And lastly (I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this), how do we make
you stop?

On 16 December 2015 at 21:22, Andre Coetzee <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:48:53 +0200
> "Dominic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In response to your first post I took the time to look at the thread
> > and offered some constructive advice (as one of the most-qualified
> > people in the country to offer it).  You chose not to engage with it.
> > I lost interest. I do not care whether you are a liar or not.  Cheers.
> >
> Your advice:
> "read the thread - ho-hum and it would not be the first post about the
> arrest that would me question whether to hire you"
>
> You say that you are one of the most-qualified people in the country to
> offer such advice?
>
> Thank you for telling me how great you are, I would not have known that
> simply from your advice....
>
> It is not only a question of whether I am a liar, it is also a
> question of what respected people think and that in this time, these
> respected people publish their strong opinions, often to the detriment
> of private citizens and often these respected people are actually just
> plain wrong or poorly informed or misled by others, etc.
>
> It is also a question of what is the real, truth, what is fact and what
> is fiction and how fiction is woven together with fact to create a back
> story... How even fiction can become acceptable fact, if a journalist
> writes nice words and sketches a nice picture/backdrop.
>
> In your own word Dominic, ho-hum, thank you for your advice.You still
> do not answer or help me to deal with this, at all:
>
>
> I say that I am not and never have been a cybersquatter.
>
> Paul Furber says that I am a liar.
>
> As, Paul Furber says, I am a cybersquatter.
>
> Then, Paul Furber, the journalist, uses language like "caught out" etc.
>
> Now, if you look at the link that Paul Fruber is using to demonstrate
> that "I have been caught lying" it is from a 2008 GLUG post.
>
> If you ask Calvin, who is on this list, he will tell you that from
> 2001 right up to about two? or three years ago, the mandela.co.za
> domain name, in the public whois, was actually registered in my own
> name.
>
> So, I have NEVER been hiding, I have NEVER been "caught out" at
> anything.
>
>
> It all boils down to the definition of a cybersquatter. Am I a
> cybersquatter, or not.
>
> ***********************************************************************
> and very simply:
> mandela.co.za  IS NOT nelsonmandela.co.za or madiba.co.za
>
> There are MORE  THAN ONE mandela.co.za person.  Some famous and many
> not...
> ************************************************************************
>
> So, Paul Frurber is WRONG.
>
> **********************************************************
> Not only is he wrong, but Paul Furber is a libelous slanderer.
>
> As I am not a cybersquatter, and I have never been a cybersquatter
>
> and, he never debated with me , he simply called me a liar and did so
> in public.
>
> Then, even if you do not agree: A Court has not proclaimed me a
> cybersquatter and just because Paul Fruber (or someone else) calls me a
> rapist, liar, thief, or anything else, simply does not just make it so.
>
> So, consider this: Paul Furber is actually  a libelous slanderer. He is
> also a journalist many of you read and are INFLUENCED by his articles,
> opinions etc.
>
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