Re: Digital Realty- Non Renewal

Nuclear on the roof you say? Just a matter of time. There are a bunch
of startups in this area, shipping container sized operation
intentions. Just saw a news report on this place that just started
their HQ here in South Florida. Interesting stuff.

https://www.ampera-x.com/


On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 12:32 PM Tom Beecher via NANOG
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > The past year has seen a lot of attention paid to small and large nuclear.
> > We'll probably see a lot more of it.
>
>
> Random articles on the clickbait tech press circuits are a far cry from
> actual in production use. (See also, IPv8 lulz from last week. )
>
> Very few SMRs are actually running anywhere. Canada approved a 4 unit SMR
> project at Darlington in 2020, they didn't start construction on the 1st
> until until May 2025, and don't expect that to be online until 2030. 10
> years for 300 MW thermal isn't a great value proposition when you can spend
> the same 10 years to get a 1GW thermal reactor up.
>
> Large nuclear will unlikely be a solution either. You don't just blow the
> dust bunnies off a decommissioned reactor to fire it up again, and even Big
> Tech isn't likely to be able to grease the NRC into easing most
> regulations. Even the dumbest of politicians is smart enough to know that a
> TMI in your district is REALLY REALLY BAD.
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 10:24 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > Nor suitable for 24/7 loads.
> >
> > The past year has seen a lot of attention paid to small and large nuclear.
> > We'll probably see a lot more of it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sronan--- via NANOG" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected], "Shane Ronan" <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2026 9:22:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: Digital Realty- Non Renewal
> >
> > Neither solar or wind is particularly cost effective, even at scale.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > > On Apr 23, 2026, at 10:00 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > And now thanks to the Iran war, I suspect they’ll all hurriedly
> > transition to wind or solar or anything other than natural gas.
> > >
> > > From: Shane Ronan via NANOG <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Friday, 24 April 2026 at 6:51 AM
> > > To: North American Network Operators Group <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: Shane Ronan <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: Digital Realty- Non Renewal
> > >
> > > We've long surpassed the power available from the commercial power grid.
> > > MANY large scale data centers are using cogeneration with natural gas
> > > turbines. I don't however think they would be approved for that in the
> > > middle of downtown Chicago.
> > >
> > > shane
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 6:54 PM Matthew Petach via NANOG <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 3:36 PM Christopher Morrow via NANOG <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 5:32 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > but Cermak is a big building. They can't use up *THAT* much of it.
> > > > Also,
> > > > > diversifying to tier 2 markets would probably help a lot not have so
> > many
> > > > > eggs in one basket.
> > > > >
> > > > > how much power, exactly, is landing in Cermak? do you think you could
> > > > > use all of that up with your set of 120kw NVidia racks?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > What, nobody is putting shipping-container-sized micro nuclear
> > reactors on
> > > > the rooftops of the buildings to augment power capacity?
> > > >
> > > > Come on, people, start thinking outside the box a little.  ;)
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > > (yes, yes, permitting, upgrading electrical wiring to handle 10MW
> > coming in
> > > > from a shipping container on the roof, not as trivial as it
> > sounds...but
> > > > still, I think we're coming up on the tail end of counting entirely on
> > the
> > > > power grid to deliver power to high-density compute facilities)
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