Re: Digital Realty- Non Renewal

Nuclear on roof in this age of drones is a truly wonderful idea. 

Everyone designs top floors to carry thousands of tonnes of armour and shielding. 

File under the “even if we could, should we?” folder. 

-I wonder how many of these startups are going to be running the Ocean Gate playbook of willfull ignorance in the pursuit of VC cash. 

Good luck pulling hard drives when even your robot dog can’t get near the rack without dying to gamma. 

> On 24 Apr 2026, at 21:59, Javier J via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Nuclear on the roof you say? Just a matter of time. There are a bunch
> of startups in this area, shipping container sized operation
> intentions. Just saw a news report on this place that just started
> their HQ here in South Florida. Interesting stuff.
> 
> https://www.ampera-x.com/
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 12:32 PM Tom Beecher via NANOG
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The past year has seen a lot of attention paid to small and large nuclear.
>>> We'll probably see a lot more of it.
>> 
>> 
>> Random articles on the clickbait tech press circuits are a far cry from
>> actual in production use. (See also, IPv8 lulz from last week. )
>> 
>> Very few SMRs are actually running anywhere. Canada approved a 4 unit SMR
>> project at Darlington in 2020, they didn't start construction on the 1st
>> until until May 2025, and don't expect that to be online until 2030. 10
>> years for 300 MW thermal isn't a great value proposition when you can spend
>> the same 10 years to get a 1GW thermal reactor up.
>> 
>> Large nuclear will unlikely be a solution either. You don't just blow the
>> dust bunnies off a decommissioned reactor to fire it up again, and even Big
>> Tech isn't likely to be able to grease the NRC into easing most
>> regulations. Even the dumbest of politicians is smart enough to know that a
>> TMI in your district is REALLY REALLY BAD.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 10:24 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nor suitable for 24/7 loads.
>>> 
>>> The past year has seen a lot of attention paid to small and large nuclear.
>>> We'll probably see a lot more of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "sronan--- via NANOG" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: [email protected], "Shane Ronan" <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2026 9:22:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Digital Realty- Non Renewal
>>> 
>>> Neither solar or wind is particularly cost effective, even at scale.
>>> 
>>> Shane
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 23, 2026, at 10:00 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And now thanks to the Iran war, I suspect they’ll all hurriedly
>>> transition to wind or solar or anything other than natural gas.
>>>> 
>>>> From: Shane Ronan via NANOG <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Friday, 24 April 2026 at 6:51 AM
>>>> To: North American Network Operators Group <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: Shane Ronan <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Realty- Non Renewal
>>>> 
>>>> We've long surpassed the power available from the commercial power grid.
>>>> MANY large scale data centers are using cogeneration with natural gas
>>>> turbines. I don't however think they would be approved for that in the
>>>> middle of downtown Chicago.
>>>> 
>>>> shane
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 6:54 PM Matthew Petach via NANOG <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 3:36 PM Christopher Morrow via NANOG <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 5:32 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> but Cermak is a big building. They can't use up *THAT* much of it.
>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> diversifying to tier 2 markets would probably help a lot not have so
>>> many
>>>>>> eggs in one basket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> how much power, exactly, is landing in Cermak? do you think you could
>>>>>> use all of that up with your set of 120kw NVidia racks?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What, nobody is putting shipping-container-sized micro nuclear
>>> reactors on
>>>>> the rooftops of the buildings to augment power capacity?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Come on, people, start thinking outside the box a little.  ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> (yes, yes, permitting, upgrading electrical wiring to handle 10MW
>>> coming in
>>>>> from a shipping container on the roof, not as trivial as it
>>> sounds...but
>>>>> still, I think we're coming up on the tail end of counting entirely on
>>> the
>>>>> power grid to deliver power to high-density compute facilities)
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