Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

Larry,

Maybe, I am not sure the Nanog group has the same people, but some university
students are working on it. 

I have one thing I am trying to finish. But let me ask you, 

I assume you run a pretty big network. And likely on 10.x.x.x as thats what
everyone does. How much more convenient would it be to segment networks by
internal ASN number I chose 127.x.x.x as local network. 

127.<department>.<region>.floor. == 10 Billion IP addresses. 

Everything would be secured, isolated, managed, auditable. 

Jamie 







On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 4:32 PM Larry Brower <[email protected]> wrote:


> " People are planning to build ipv8 right now."
> 
> Are these people in the room with us?
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> From: Jamie Thain via NANOG <[email protected] [[email protected]]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 2:29 PM
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> [[email protected]]>; Jamie Thain <[email protected] [[email protected]]>
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> Joe,
> 
> No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8 is
> an upgrade to ipv4.
> 
> So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.
> 
> Like merging to companies both using 10.x
> 
> Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.
> 
> People are planning to build ipv8 right now.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <[email protected]
> [[email protected]]> wrote:
> 
> > This is very funny!
> >
> > - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9.
> > At present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
> >
> > - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6
> > address instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices,
> > Wi-Fi roaming, privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and
> > tunnels. In short, this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near
> > Earth, and deep space. Will you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6
> > change? When will you submit the patent applications (Similary to Microsoft
> patent for SEND/CGA)?
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> > OO.
> >
> > Joe Klein
> >
> > "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II,
> > Scene 1) "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has
> been."
> > -- *Wayne Gretzky
> > "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> > [email protected] [[email protected]]> wrote:
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> >> >
> >> > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> >> > not being polite, you're enabling.
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> >> Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that
> >> question quite rapidly.
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> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
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> >> > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
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> >> > Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
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