Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

Shane,


Missed the mark on what? 

I'm trying to fix IPv4 for corporates. You guys do whatever you want. 

I want help fixing BGP but if you think its all great so be it. 

Jamie 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 5:10 PM <[email protected]> wrote:


> If you have worked in the large scale network world as long as you say you
> have, you’d know that 99.9999% of what comes out of universities at this point
> related to networks and network protocols is all pipe dreams and has no
> connection to reality. Here on NANOG you have the OPERATORS of the world
> largest networks, and they are all telling you, that you missed the mark, that
> should tell you something.
> 
> Shane
> 
> > On Apr 30, 2026, at 4:06 PM, Jamie Thain via NANOG <[email protected]
> [[email protected]]> wrote:
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > Maybe, I am not sure the Nanog group has the same people, but some
> university
> > students are working on it.
> >
> > I have one thing I am trying to finish. But let me ask you,
> >
> > I assume you run a pretty big network. And likely on 10.x.x.x as thats what
> > everyone does. How much more convenient would it be to segment networks by
> > internal ASN number I chose 127.x.x.x as local network.
> >
> > 127.<department>.<region>.floor. == 10 Billion IP addresses.
> >
> > Everything would be secured, isolated, managed, auditable.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 4:32 PM Larry Brower <[email protected]
> [[email protected]]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> " People are planning to build ipv8 right now."
> >>
> >> Are these people in the room with us?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----
> >> Larry Brower
> >> Network Specialist
> >> Texas Department of Insurance
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jamie Thain via NANOG <[email protected] [[email protected]]
> [[email protected] [[email protected]]]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 2:29 PM
> >> To: Joe Klein <[email protected] [[email protected]] [[email protected]
> [[email protected]]]>
> >> Cc: North American Network Operators Group <[email protected]
> [[email protected]]
> >> [[email protected] [[email protected]]]>; Jamie Thain <[email protected]
> [[email protected]] [[email protected] [[email protected]]]>
> >> Subject: Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF
> >>
> >> ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments
> or
> >> click on links from unknown or unexpected emails.
> >>
> >> Joe,
> >>
> >> No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8
> is
> >> an upgrade to ipv4.
> >>
> >> So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.
> >>
> >> Like merging to companies both using 10.x
> >>
> >> Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.
> >>
> >> People are planning to build ipv8 right now.
> >>
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >> On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <[email protected]
> [[email protected]]
> >> [[email protected] [[email protected]]]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is very funny!
> >>>
> >>> - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9.
> >>> At present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
> >>>
> >>> - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6
> >>> address instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices,
> >>> Wi-Fi roaming, privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and
> >>> tunnels. In short, this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near
> >>> Earth, and deep space. Will you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6
> >>> change? When will you submit the patent applications (Similary to
> Microsoft
> >> patent for SEND/CGA)?
> >>>
> >>> Have fun.
> >>>
> >>> OO.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Klein
> >>>
> >>> "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II,
> >>> Scene 1) "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has
> >> been."
> >>> -- *Wayne Gretzky
> >>> "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> >>> [email protected] [[email protected]] [[email protected]
> [[email protected]]]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> >>>>> not being polite, you're enabling.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Only works when the recipient is actually open to receiving feedback
> >>>> and collaborating.
> >>>>
> >>>> Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that
> >>>> question quite rapidly.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
> >>>> [email protected] [[email protected]] [[email protected]
> [[email protected]]]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> >>>>> not being polite, you're enabling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>    ++ytti
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