Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

Shane, 

Right now people are building are community people in labs. It's been out 2
weeks, do you think Large Scale network people have even heard of it? 

I can tell you that all the big companies visited my LinkedIn. 

The people it addresses are first corporate. The addressing of the internet
issues -- were kind of secondary. 

For example under BGP4 how many routes exist in today's how many would exist
under IPv8 

The point of introducing an "area code" is you only have to dial that and let
the local exchange deal with. 

:) 

 






On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 4:35 PM Shane Ronan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jamie,
> 
> 
> Who is planning to build IPv8, because I can tell you as someone who works for
> one of the LARGEST networks in the US (both wireline and wireless), there are
> no plans here. Can you give us some names of the equipment manufacturers or
> large scale networks that have signed on to this idea?
> 
> 
> Shane
> 
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> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 3:29 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <[email protected]
> [[email protected]]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Joe,
> > 
> > No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8
> > is an upgrade to ipv4.
> > 
> > So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.
> > 
> > Like merging to companies both using 10.x
> > 
> > Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.
> > 
> > People are planning to build ipv8 right now.
> > 
> > Jamie
> > 
> > On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <[email protected]
> > [[email protected]]> wrote:
> > 
> > > This is very funny!
> > >
> > > - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9. At
> > > present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
> > >
> > > - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6 address
> > > instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices, Wi-Fi roaming,
> > > privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and tunnels. In short,
> > > this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near Earth, and deep space. Will
> > > you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6 change? When will you submit the
> > > patent applications (Similary to Microsoft patent for SEND/CGA)?
> > >
> > > Have fun.
> > >
> > > OO.
> > >
> > > Joe Klein
> > >
> > > "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II, Scene 1)
> > > "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been."
> > > -- *Wayne Gretzky
> > > "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> > > [email protected] [[email protected]]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > >> > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Only works when the recipient is actually open to receiving feedback and
> > >> collaborating.
> > >>
> > >> Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that question
> > >> quite rapidly.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
> > >> [email protected] [[email protected]]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > >> > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > >> >
> > >> > Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
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