Re: Hello Hurricane Electric, doubling the size of our domestic table?

I'd call that partial transit ;-)

(BGP sanity questions remain).

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:05 PM Dave Mill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Buying 'domestic' is a way of paying for the privilege of
> sending/receiving traffic to Spark :)
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Tom Paseka <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> If I can ask, what does a "domestic" table genuinely bring you. If you
>> carry routes to your edge(s) that have both peering and transit, do you
>> need to extend the DFZ all the way through your network? If you've got a
>> single exit path (or a few) do you need to extend the domestic routes any
>> further?
>>
>> Another thing to note: BGP Sanity. Apply AS_PATH filters to all your
>> peers. This doubly so if you're extending the routes throughout your
>> network. Much of HE's routes might not be relevant to your network and
>> could have easily been sanitized with some nice filters.
>>
>> Also congrats to HE/Team!
>> -Tom
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't forget that the NZ/AU concept of 'domestic table' is a fairly
>>> unique concept that isn't seen in much of the rest of the world- generally
>>> any feed is going to be default, a peering feed (customer routes), or a
>>> full table.... Doubt anyone thought of it ;).
>>>
>>> Congrats to Mike & Walt on extending to NZ... pretty cool to see a
>>> worldwide carrier finally making it there - fantastic to see how far the NZ
>>> internet has progressed!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:47 PM Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps those that had issues should use such tools as prefix limits on
>>>> their inbound feeds. We get notified by our edge routers quite regularly
>>>> that the number of prefixes has or is about to max out.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 19/09/2018, at 4:39 PM, Liam Farr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IMO I think its great that a large carrier has come to our neck of the
>>>> woods, and they are openly peering on both our major IX's. This is a good
>>>> thing for internet in NZ.
>>>>
>>>> Notifications were sent to the affected parties who peer, months in
>>>> advance.
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe HE had any malicious intent to break your internet.
>>>>
>>>> If your stuff broke because you have a shit upstream, fix it and move
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 16:35, Michael Fincham <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:32:09 +1200
>>>>> Nathan Ward <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Through whoever you buy domestic transit from - communication for
>>>>> these sorts of changes, and if required protecting customers who want to
>>>>> run such a service on c2610s, is a core part of such a service. If your
>>>>> transit providers are unable to do this I would suggest looking towards
>>>>> other operators.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a bad attitude IMO. An operator turns up in NZ, breaks a bunch
>>>>> of stuff, doesn't even bother to post to NZNOG letting us know they're
>>>>> going to break things, and you're just blaming my transit provider?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, none of the IXes posted on NZNOG?
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liam Farr
>>>>
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