Re: decent SOHO switches?
Joel Wirāmu Pauling <[email protected]> Fri, 28 Jun 2019 14:04:51 +1200
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--===============1861970368== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cf44b4058c58b491" --000000000000cf44b4058c58b491 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whilst on topic has anyone come accross reasonably priced 802.3bz supporting switches ; aka 10G Copper with Fallback based on Media Capability? Netgear and Buffalo were the only two I found that were anywhere close to reasonably priced (1000$ odd); and then there is a long list of Wireless AX ap's that have a port of it which is not useful. On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 14:00, Joel Wir=C4=81mu Pauling <[email protected]> = wrote: > Do the edgecore do proper hybrid vlan? Aka Routing Any to Any (including > untagged AKA native)? > > That was a major drawback of the Routerboard range. > > I'm still a big fan of anything running Openwrt mainline; and I still fin= d > that cheap j1900 /n3560 ATOM braswell based ones with x86 are far more > flexible than anything commercially bundled. > You can get a 4 port j1900 for 50$ and if you want to do Layer3 stuff the= n > the 3160 version is another 100$ or so (and includes AES-NX). > > Point me at something that can do Layer3 routing at 5Gbit with high > PPS/small packets with encryption for that price point that doesn't come > with weirdness - I have been looking for a while. > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 13:39, Richard Hector <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Jonathan, >> >> That's the second suggestion I've had for Edge-core (and that model in >> particular). >> >> I'd forgotten (if I knew) about the link with Accton - I put in quite a >> few Accton hubs and (ISA) NICs in the 90's. >> >> Cheers, >> Richard >> >> On 28/06/19 1:30 PM, Jonathan Brewer wrote: >> > Hi Richard, >> > >> > I've had good experience with EdgeCore products, and I know a few >> > providers in New Zealand have been using them in their networks for 10= + >> > years now. >> > >> > They have a model that looks like what you >> > want: https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=3D4380= 92 >> > >> > The full description from SnapperNet indicates it has CLI >> > too. >> https://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/912/edgecore-ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-= 100-1000-mbps-gigabit-managed-switch-with-2-gigabit-sfp-slots >> > >> > Accton, EdgeCore's parent company, also manufactures Facebook's 100G >> > datacentre switches, the IgniteNet line of mmWave radios, and probably >> > some other OEM stuff I have no idea about. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Jon >> > >> > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 08:03, Richard Hector <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I hope this isn't too far off topic. >> > >> > What's available in the way of managed switches (at least includin= g >> > 802.1q VLANs) at a suitable price for a small office? >> > >> > The (8-port) one I bought 4 years ago, even at the time the https = ui >> > didn't work, because browsers had stopped supporting old certs or >> > ciphers or something. I raised it with the wholesaler, who raised = it >> > with the manufacturer - no new firmware ever came out. I couldn't >> load >> > my own cert onto it either. >> > >> > Is there anything better around, at a reasonable price? >> > >> > I'm not keen on what I understand is the cisco model either, where >> you >> > have to maintain a support contract to get any updates. >> > >> > Stretching even further - I don't suppose there's anything out the= re >> > with fully Free (as in freedom) firmware? Does SDN give us that? >> > >> > Feel free to reply off-list if you don't want to promote (or >> disparage) >> > your suppliers (or self) in public :-) >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Richard >> > _______________________________________________ >> > NZNOG mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > NZNOG mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> > --000000000000cf44b4058c58b491 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,= sans-serif">Whilst on topic has anyone come accross reasonably priced 802.3= bz supporting switches ; aka 10G Copper with Fallback based on Media Capabi= lity?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-s= erif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,s= ans-serif">Netgear and Buffalo were the only two I found that were anywhere= close to reasonably priced (1000$ odd); and then there is a long list of W= ireless AX ap's that have a port of it which is not useful. <br></div><= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></= div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><= br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma= il_attr">On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 14:00, Joel Wir=C4=81mu Pauling <<a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef= t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class= =3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Do the edgecore= do proper hybrid vlan? Aka Routing Any to Any (including untagged AKA nati= ve)?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-se= rif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sa= ns-serif">That was a major drawback of the Routerboard range. <br></div><di= v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></di= v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I&#= 39;m still a big fan of anything running Openwrt mainline; and I still find= that cheap j1900 /n3560 ATOM braswell based ones with x86 are far more fle= xible than anything commercially bundled. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def= ault" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You can get a 4 port j1900 f= or 50$ and if you want to do Layer3 stuff then the 3160 version is another = 100$ or so (and includes AES-NX).</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" = style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Point me at something that can do = Layer3 routing at 5Gbit with high PPS/small packets with encryption for tha= t price point that doesn't come with weirdness - I have been looking fo= r a while.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c= lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 13:39, Richard Hector <<a hre= f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]<= /a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">T= hanks Jonathan,<br> <br> That's the second suggestion I've had for Edge-core (and that model= in<br> particular).<br> <br> I'd forgotten (if I knew) about the link with Accton - I put in quite a= <br> few Accton hubs and (ISA) NICs in the 90's.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Richard<br> <br> On 28/06/19 1:30 PM, Jonathan Brewer wrote:<br> > Hi Richard,<br> > <br> > I've had good experience with EdgeCore products, and I know a few<= br> > providers in New Zealand have been using them in their networks for 10= +<br> > years now.<br> > <br> > They have a model that looks like what you<br> > want:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.as= px?itemID=3D438092" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ascent= .co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=3D438092</a><br> > <br> > The full description from SnapperNet indicates it has CLI<br> > too.=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/912/edgecore= -ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-100-1000-mbps-gigabit-managed-switch-with-2-gigabit-= sfp-slots" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.snappernet.co.n= z/product/912/edgecore-ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-100-1000-mbps-gigabit-managed-= switch-with-2-gigabit-sfp-slots</a><br> > <br> > Accton, EdgeCore's parent company, also manufactures Facebook'= s 100G<br> > datacentre switches,=C2=A0the IgniteNet line of mmWave radios, and pro= bably<br> > some other OEM stuff I have no idea about.<br> > <br> > Cheers,<br> > <br> > Jon<br> > <br> > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 08:03, Richard Hector <<a href=3D"mailto:ric= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> > <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">= [email protected]</a>>> wrote:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi all,<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I hope this isn't too far off topic.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0What's available in the way of managed switches= (at least including<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0802.1q VLANs) at a suitable price for a small offic= e?<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The (8-port) one I bought 4 years ago, even at the = time the https ui<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0didn't work, because browsers had stopped suppo= rting old certs or<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ciphers or something. I raised it with the wholesal= er, who raised it<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with the manufacturer - no new firmware ever came o= ut. I couldn't load<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0my own cert onto it either.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is there anything better around, at a reasonable pr= ice?<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm not keen on what I understand is the cisco = model either, where you<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have to maintain a support contract to get any upda= tes.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stretching even further - I don't suppose there= 's anything out there<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with fully Free (as in freedom) firmware? Does SDN = give us that?<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Feel free to reply off-list if you don't want t= o promote (or disparage)<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0your suppliers (or self) in public :-)<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Richard<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______________________________________________<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NZNOG mailing list<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:NZNOG= @list.waikato.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listi= nfo/nznog" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/= mailman/listinfo/nznog</a><br> > <br> > <br> > _______________________________________________<br> > NZNOG mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">NZNOG@li= st.waikato.ac.nz</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog" rel=3D"n= oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nz= nog</a><br> > <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> NZNOG mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= ikato.ac.nz</a><br> <a href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog" rel=3D"norefe= rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog</= a><br> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000cf44b4058c58b491-- --===============1861970368== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list [email protected] https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog --===============1861970368==--