Re: 2019 BGP router recommendations

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One pro for the MX104 over the MX204 and MX150 is it supports services MIC
which you don't get on those other two boxes.




*Jesse Archer*
*General Manager*Full Flavour


*p. *07 577 0099  *ddi*. 07 281 1391
*s*. Skype "myfullflavour"
*e*. [email protected] <[email protected]>
*w*. fullflavour.nz <http://www.fullflavourmedia.co.nz/>
*a. *Basestation, 148 Durham Street, Tauranga
*a*. PO Box 13403, Tauranga Central, Tauranga 3141, New Zealand


On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 1:32 PM Dave Mill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yup, I just finished some testing on a MX150 this morning and its a nice
> box. Shame about the 1x PSU and only 2x 10G.
>
> MX204 is a very nice box. Need to accept you only have 1x RE though.
>
> I really don't like MX104s..
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:58 PM Tony Wicks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Licence wise, the 150 stacks up very favourably. I know that is counter
>> intuitive, but=E2=80=A6
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] <
>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jesse Archer
>> *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2019 12:17 PM
>> *To:* NZNOG Mailing-List <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> It's basically vMX running on a Juniper hardware box.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just grab a vMX license?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jesse Archer*
>> *General Manager*Full Flavour
>>
>> *p. *07 577 0099  *ddi*. 07 281 1391
>> *s*. Skype "myfullflavour"
>> *e*. [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> *w*. fullflavour.nz <http://www.fullflavourmedia.co.nz/>
>> *a. *Basestation, 148 Durham Street, Tauranga
>> *a*. PO Box 13403, Tauranga Central, Tauranga 3141, New Zealand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:16 PM Tony Wicks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> MX150 will handle a few full tables no problem, now if it only had more
>> than one power supply=E2=80=A6. It is a very attractive price for what y=
ou get
>> however.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] <
>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Phil Snowdon
>> *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2019 11:17 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking for some recommendations for BGP edge routers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have used Juniper devices for years, but interested to hear what else ma=
y
>> be out there.  Requirement is just to shift packets and multihome to a f=
ew
>> upstream transit providers with full routing tables and several peering
>> partners with more limited route table sizes.  Traffic volumes in the gi=
gs
>> to low 10's of gigs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to be getting into a situation where the high end boxes to cope
>> with routing table sizes are overkill in terms of features and performan=
ce
>> (and price).   But match performance and there's not enough memory to ru=
n
>> the BGP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Prefer a supported vendor device rather than roll your own open source
>> solution.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
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mail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><p><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">One pro fo=
r the MX104 over the MX204 and MX150 is it supports services MIC which you =
don&#39;t get on those other two boxes.</font></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b></b><br></font></p>
<p><b><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Jesse Archer<br></font></=
b><i><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">General Manager<br></font>=
</i><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Full Flavour</sp=
an></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><img src=
=3D"http://fullflavour.co.nz/files/7814/0357/5893/full-flavour.png"><br></s=
pan></p>
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elvetica, sans-serif">. 07 281 1391</font><br><b style=3D"font-family:arial=
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fullflavour.nz</a><br></span><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif">a. </b><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Basesta=
tion, 148 Durham Street, Tauranga<br></span><b style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif">a</b><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif">. PO Box 13403, Tauranga Central, Tauranga 3141, New Zealand</span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 1:32 PM Da=
ve Mill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Yup, I just finished some testing on a MX150 this morning and its a n=
ice box. Shame about the 1x PSU and only 2x 10G.<div><br></div><div>MX204 i=
s a very nice box. Need to accept you only have 1x RE though.</div><div><br=
></div><div>I really don&#39;t like MX104s..</div><div><br></div><div>Dave<=
/div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:58 PM Tony Wicks &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D=
"EN-NZ"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-8670297379822633114gmail-m_42550166801406304=
65WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Licence wise, the 150 stacks u=
p very favourably. I know that is counter intuitive, but=E2=80=A6<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:nz=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
o.ac.nz</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Je=
sse Archer<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 9 August 2019 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> NZN=
OG Mailing-List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [nznog] 2019=
 BGP router recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It&#39;s basically vMX =
running on a Juniper hardware box.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wouldn&#39;t=
 it be more cost effective to just grab a vMX license?<u></u><u></u></p><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p><b>=
<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Jesse Archer<br></span></b><i>=
<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">General Manager<br></span></i>=
<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Full Flavour</span><u></u><u><=
/u></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><img id=3D"gmail-m_-=
8670297379822633114gmail-m_4255016680140630465_x0000_i1025" src=3D"http://f=
ullflavour.co.nz/files/7814/0357/5893/full-flavour.png"></span><u></u><u></=
u></p><p><b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">p. </span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">07 577 0099 =C2=A0<b>ddi</b>. 07 2=
81 1391</span><br><b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">s</span><=
/b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">. Skype &quot;myfullflavour=
&quot;<br><b>e</b>. <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>w</b>.=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://ww=
w.fullflavourmedia.co.nz/" target=3D"_blank">fullflavour.nz</a><br><b>a. </=
b>Basestation, 148 Durham Street, Tauranga<br><b>a</b>. PO Box 13403, Taura=
nga Central, Tauranga 3141, New Zealand</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:16 PM Tony Wick=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">tony-8nLXRX1EmDJXW/cJ/[email protected]=
z</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:non=
e;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">MX150 will handle a few full tables no problem, now if=
 it only had more than one power supply=E2=80=A6. It is a very attractive p=
rice for what you get however.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</=
span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:nznog-bounces-+wOGpAKf4av/[email protected]=
.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">nznog-bounce=
[email protected]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Snowdon<br><b>Sent:</=
b> Friday, 9 August 2019 11:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:nznog@lis=
t.waikato.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations</span><u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi =
All,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking for some recommendations for BGP e=
dge routers.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Have used Juniper devices fo=
r years, but interested to hear what else may be out there.=C2=A0 Requireme=
nt is just to shift packets and multihome to a few upstream transit provide=
rs with full routing tables and several peering partners with more limited =
route table sizes.=C2=A0 Traffic volumes in the gigs to low 10&#39;s of gig=
s.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I seem to be getting into a situation =
where the high end boxes to cope with routing table sizes are overkill in t=
erms of features and performance (and price).=C2=A0 =C2=A0But match perform=
ance and there&#39;s not enough memory to run the BGP.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Prefer a supported vendor device rather than roll your own o=
pen source solution.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Phil<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">__=
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