Re: 2019 BGP router recommendations
Mehmet Akcin <[email protected]> Thu, 8 Aug 2019 19:29:50 -0700
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--===============1060555899== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000888231058fa5f337" --000000000000888231058fa5f337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. Don=E2=80=99t think twice. On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:21 PM Phil Snowdon <[email protected]> wrote: > Seems like the consensus is still pretty much Juniper is the preferred > vendor of choice. I was prepared to be enlightened into a world of > alternatives... > > Thanks all. Must be almost beer'o'clock > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 13:35, Liam Farr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Did the same exercise, the perpetual + support, or yearly subscription >> path both cost more than vMX after a few years. >> >> MX150 is better value if your focused on cost and don=E2=80=99t care abo= ut >> limitations like single PSU. >> >> I have been advised that you may not get the performance advertised on >> the data sheet for some protocols, IP forwarding being multi thread / CP= U >> core, but some L2/MPLS stuff is only single core, (haven=E2=80=99t teste= d this >> personally), so can bottleneck. Likewise turning on stuff like QOS is >> supposed to be quite resource intensive as no ASIC. >> >> - - >> >> Liam Farr >> +64-22-6107884 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 9/08/2019, at 12:57 PM, Tony Wicks <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Licence wise, the 150 stacks up very favourably. I know that is counter >> intuitive, but=E2=80=A6 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jesse Archer >> *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2019 12:17 PM >> *To:* NZNOG Mailing-List <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations >> >> >> >> It's basically vMX running on a Juniper hardware box. >> >> >> >> Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just grab a vMX license? >> >> >> >> >> *Jesse Archer* >> *General Manager*Full Flavour >> >> *p. *07 577 0099 *ddi*. 07 281 1391 >> *s*. Skype "myfullflavour" >> *e*. [email protected] <[email protected]> >> *w*. fullflavour.nz <http://www.fullflavourmedia.co.nz/> >> *a. *Basestation, 148 Durham Street >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/148+Durham+Street?entry=3Dgmail&sour= ce=3Dg>, >> Tauranga >> *a*. PO Box 13403, Tauranga Central, Tauranga 3141, New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:16 PM Tony Wicks <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> MX150 will handle a few full tables no problem, now if it only had more >> than one power supply=E2=80=A6. It is a very attractive price for what y= ou get >> however. >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Phil Snowdon >> *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2019 11:17 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Looking for some recommendations for BGP edge routers. >> >> >> >> Have used Juniper devices for years, but interested to hear what else ma= y >> be out there. Requirement is just to shift packets and multihome to a f= ew >> upstream transit providers with full routing tables and several peering >> partners with more limited route table sizes. Traffic volumes in the gi= gs >> to low 10's of gigs. >> >> >> >> I seem to be getting into a situation where the high end boxes to cope >> with routing table sizes are overkill in terms of features and performan= ce >> (and price). But match performance and there's not enough memory to ru= n >> the BGP. >> >> >> >> Prefer a supported vendor device rather than roll your own open source >> solution. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Phil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > --=20 Mehmet +1-424-298-1903 --000000000000888231058fa5f337 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes. Don=E2=80=99t think twice.=C2=A0</div></div><di= v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On T= hu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:21 PM Phil Snowdon <<a href=3D"mailto:phil.snowdon@= gmail.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Seems like the consensus is still pretty muc= h Juniper is the preferred vendor of choice. I was prepared to be enlighten= ed into a world of alternatives...<div><br></div><div>Thanks all.=C2=A0 Mus= t be almost beer'o'clock</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 13:35, Liam Far= r <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">liam@maxumdat= a.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma= rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:= 1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Did the same exercise, the perpetual + support, or y= early subscription path both cost more than vMX after a few years.=C2=A0<di= v><br></div><div>MX150 is better value if your focused on cost and don=E2= =80=99t care about limitations like single PSU.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><= div>I have been advised that you may not get the performance advertised on = the data sheet for some protocols, IP forwarding being multi thread / CPU c= ore, but some L2/MPLS stuff is only single core, (haven=E2=80=99t tested th= is personally), so can bottleneck. Likewise turning on stuff like QOS is su= pposed to be quite resource intensive as no ASIC.=C2=A0<br><br><div id=3D"m= _-4691498817727679488gmail-m_3424636149209143424AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"= ltr"><div>- -</div><div><br></div><div>Liam Farr</div><div>+64-22-6107884</= div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 9/08/20= 19, at 12:57 PM, Tony Wicks <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type= =3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"m_-4691498817727679488gmail-m_3424= 636149209143424WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Licence wise, the= 150 stacks up very favourably. I know that is counter intuitive, but=E2=80= =A6</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"Mso= Normal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></= p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang= =3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:nznog-bou= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= </a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jesse Archer<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 9 August = 2019 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> NZNOG Mailing-List <<a href=3D"mailto:nznog@= list.waikato.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br><= b>Subject:</b> Re: [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations</span></p><p cla= ss=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It's basically v= MX running on a Juniper hardware box.</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0= </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wouldn't it be more cost effectiv= e to just grab a vMX license?</p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><d= iv><p>=C2=A0</p><p><b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Jesse Ar= cher<br></span></b><i><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">General = Manager<br></span></i><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Full Fla= vour</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><img id=3D"m= _-4691498817727679488gmail-m_3424636149209143424_x0000_i1025" src=3D"http:/= /fullflavour.co.nz/files/7814/0357/5893/full-flavour.png"></span></p><p><b>= <span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">p. </span></b><span style=3D"f= ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">07 577 0099 =C2=A0<b>ddi</b>. 07 281 1391</spa= n><br><b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">s</span></b><span sty= le=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">. Skype "myfullflavour"<br><b= >e</b>. <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">j= [email protected]</a><br><b>w</b>.=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.fullflavour= media.co.nz/" target=3D"_blank">fullflavour.nz</a><br><b>a. </b>Basestation= , <a href=3D"https://www.google.com/maps/search/148+Durham+Street?entry=3Dg= mail&source=3Dg">148 Durham Street</a>, Tauranga<br><b>a</b>. PO Box 13= 403, Tauranga Central, Tauranga 3141, New Zealand</span></p></div></div></d= iv></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></d= iv></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">= On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:16 PM Tony Wicks <<a href=3D"mailto:tony@wicks= .co.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockqu= ote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-le= ft:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;mar= gin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">MX150 will handle a few ful= l tables no problem, now if it only had more than one power supply=E2=80=A6= . It is a very attractive price for what you get however.</p><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</sp= an></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= c.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> <<a href=3D= "mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">nznog-bounces@l= ist.waikato.ac.nz</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Snowdon<br><b>Sent:</b> = Friday, 9 August 2019 11:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= aikato.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject:= </b> [nznog] 2019 BGP router recommendations</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l">=C2=A0</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All,</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor= mal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking for some recommend= ations for BGP edge routers.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p= ></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Have used Juniper devices for years, but= interested to hear what else may be out there.=C2=A0 Requirement is just t= o shift packets and multihome to a few upstream transit providers with full= routing tables and several peering partners with more limited route table = sizes.=C2=A0 Traffic volumes in the gigs to low 10's of gigs.</p></div>= <div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I s= eem to be getting into a situation where the high end boxes to cope with ro= uting table sizes are overkill in terms of features and performance (and pr= ice).=C2=A0 =C2=A0But match performance and there's not enough memory t= o run the BGP.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p= class=3D"MsoNormal">Prefer a supported vendor device rather than roll your= own open source solution.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><= /div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal= ">Thanks</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class= =3D"MsoNormal">Phil</p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">_____= __________________________________________<br>NZNOG mailing list<br><a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= c.nz</a><br><a href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog" t= arget=3D"_blank">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog</a></p><= /blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d= ir=3D"ltr"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>= <span>NZNOG mailing list</span><br><span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= to.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></span><br><span><a= href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog" target=3D"_blan= k">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog</a></span><br></div></= blockquote></div></div> _______________________________________________<br> NZNOG mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= ikato.ac.nz</a><br> <a href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog" rel=3D"norefe= rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog</= a><br> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> NZNOG mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= ikato.ac.nz</a><br> <a href=3D"https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog" rel=3D"norefe= rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog</= a><br> </blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" = data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Mehmet<br>+1-424-298-1903</div> --000000000000888231058fa5f337-- --===============1060555899== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list [email protected] https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog --===============1060555899==--