Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today

Bukan 'masih percaya' oom Perry, tapi kebanyakan belum tahu isu
masalahnya. Selain itu, tunggakan pembuatan UU di DPR RI masih seabrek
- semuanya pengen diatur undang-undang. Urusan kewarganegaran ganda
mungkin belum dianggap penting.
Untuk itu perlu woro-woro menyuarakan isu ini pada mereka-mereka itu.

:Dono

2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>:
> Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.
>
> Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
> dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
> lain di dunia.
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
>  On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <[email protected]>
>> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/[email protected]>
>> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>> >dilaminating.
>> >
>> >Salam,
>> >Kristanti
>> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Perry Ismangil
>> >> me.ismangil.com
>> >>   On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >________________________________
>> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/[email protected]>
>> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/[email protected]
>> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> > handbook published today
>> >> > >
>> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> dianjurkan.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>> passport
>> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>> ynag
>> >> > lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>________________________________
>> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/[email protected]>
>> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> > handbook published today
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>> selalu
>> >> > ada
>> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>--
>> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
>> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
>> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> >> > berlambang
>> >> > >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>> tanya
>> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Terima kasih
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Salam,
>> >> > >>> Kristanti
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> >> ekokurniawan-/[email protected]
>> >> > >>> >wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > >________________________________
>> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/[email protected]
>> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >> > >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the UK
>> >> > >>> > handbook published today
>> >> > >>> > >
>> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>> punya
>> >> > dua
>> >> > >>> > paspor :)
>> >> > >>> > >
>> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>> >> miracle.
>> >> > >>> > IMHO.
>> >> > >>> > >>
>> >> > >>> > >> Chris
>> >> > >>> > >>
>> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>> > >>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> >> > Kewarganegaraan
>> >> > >>> apa
>> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<[email protected]>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> >> > [email protected]>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the
>> >> UK
>> >> > >>> > handbook
>> >> > >>> > >>>  published today
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/[email protected]>:
>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>> karena
>> >> > samapi
>> >> > >>> > saaat
>> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> --
>> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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>> >> > >>> > >Perry Ismangil
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