Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today

Setuju kalau hukum seharusnya memang ditujukn untuk kesejahteraan bersama..
Yang menurut 1 pihak sejahtera belum tentu membuat pihak yang lain merasa
sejahtera.. Saya rasa banyak pihak yang akan lebih merasa sejahtera kalo
negara RI memperbolehkan 2 kewarganegaraan..

Saya rasa kembali ke individu masing-masing, mau keep passport hijau
silahkan, mau ambil passport biru/merah silahkan..

so far saya masih punya 1 passport aja, walau sering mangkel dan ngedumel
kalo mesti urus visa kesana-kesini kalau mau ada urusan pekerjaan..terutama
sebagai wanita pelaku kawin campur, perasaan saya di-anak-tirikan oleh
pemerintah RI lebih banyak lagi..

Salam hangat dan selamat berakhir pekan

Kristanti


2013/2/1 Dono Widiatmoko <[email protected]>

> Bukan 'masih percaya' oom Perry, tapi kebanyakan belum tahu isu
> masalahnya. Selain itu, tunggakan pembuatan UU di DPR RI masih seabrek
> - semuanya pengen diatur undang-undang. Urusan kewarganegaran ganda
> mungkin belum dianggap penting.
> Untuk itu perlu woro-woro menyuarakan isu ini pada mereka-mereka itu.
>
> :Dono
>
> 2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>:
>  > Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan
> bersama.
> >
> > Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih
> sejahtera
> > dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
> > lain di dunia.
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
> > me.ismangil.com
> >  On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <[email protected]>
> >> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/[email protected]>
> >> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> >> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> >> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah
> dr
> >> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk
> boleh
> >> >dilaminating.
> >> >
> >> >Salam,
> >> >Kristanti
> >> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
> >> >
> >> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> >>   On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >________________________________
> >> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/[email protected]>
> >> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/[email protected]
> >> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> >> > handbook published today
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> baru..
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> >> dianjurkan.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> >> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> >> passport
> >> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di
> passport
> >> ynag
> >> >> > lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> apakah
> >> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>________________________________
> >> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
> >> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/[email protected]>
> >> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> >> > handbook published today
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> >> selalu
> >> >> > ada
> >> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>--
> >> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> >> >> > berlambang
> >> >> > >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> >> tanya
> >> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
> di
> >> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Terima kasih
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Salam,
> >> >> > >>> Kristanti
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> >> ekokurniawan-/[email protected]
> >> >> > >>> >wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > >________________________________
> >> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
> >> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/[email protected]
> >> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >> > >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the UK
> >> >> > >>> > handbook published today
> >> >> > >>> > >
> >> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> >> punya
> >> >> > dua
> >> >> > >>> > paspor :)
> >> >> > >>> > >
> >> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
> >> >> miracle.
> >> >> > >>> > IMHO.
> >> >> > >>> > >>
> >> >> > >>> > >> Chris
> >> >> > >>> > >>
> >> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >>> > >>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> >> > Kewarganegaraan
> >> >> > >>> apa
> >> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<[email protected]>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> >> > [email protected]>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> >> the
> >> >> UK
> >> >> > >>> > handbook
> >> >> > >>> > >>>  published today
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/[email protected]>:
> >> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> >> karena
> >> >> > samapi
> >> >> > >>> > saaat
> >> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> --
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
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Warm regards,

Kristanti Widyaana TREPIN
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