Re: NSA Prism vs Activism and the whole thing in the Indian context

Sarbajit Roy <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.telecom.india-gii
Message-ID <CABun1LyqxCEqmg_pCbeWqoszmBtc4W1MAsY=a3+oTGGB50SdYw@mail.gmail.com>
IAC is now morphing into a overtly armed "resistance" movement, so
terms like "helplessness", "surrender" etc may apply to other people.
As the phrase goes
"Laaton ka boot baaton se nahin maanta".

The term "activist" is disparaging to "individuals" / private citizens
waging their
private battles. There's this automatic presumption that because A is fighting
for HIS rights he must be (gasp) "an activist".

There's another presumption .. "we can't divulge this to "you" - BUT if its in
the (another gasp) "larger public interest" we will.

Although, this is quite clearly OT, bandwidth wasting and ought to stop here.

PS: we are way past the tipping point. Sensible people are unplugging
themselves from the Matrix - its all lies anyway.

On 6/20/13, Banibrata Dutta <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Sarbajit Roy
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Banibrata
>>
>> Its the "activism" tag which sets me off. I have hardly any respect for
>> the vast majority of so-called activists (or their activism).
>>
>
> Pick a word that you prefer, but when one chooses between "doing nothing"
> and "doing something" (how so ever small, but relevant and decisive), one
> word (amongst many possible) that describes them  could be "activist". Of
> course, we know what the Pig felt about the
> Chiken<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicken_and_the_Pig>,
> though both had varying degrees of contribution (and impact), which is why
> we also have this notion of real-activists, internet-activists and
> arm-chair activists.
>
> Anyone who read(s) Philip K Dick, knows all this inevitable.
>
>
> The other day Mr.Cherian was referring to 'David vs Goliath', and I think
> you talk of inevitability in the same sense. 'They' are the all powerful,
> invincible... and rest are meek, helpless and powerless pawns. This is
> exactly the sentiment, i.e. of  "helplessness" and "unquestioned surrender"
> that ensures status-quo. However, I do firmly believe that at some point,
> nature (not in the mother earth sense, but in the natural order sense), a
> tipping point is equally inevitible. I have no idea when that tipping point
> would arrive though.
>
>
>> Go with the flow, for important communications use a PC-XT on MS-DOS 3.1
>> running Wordstar, print it out on a inland letter form using a dot matrix
>> printer and post it taking care to use a computer printed address label
>> to
>> imply its a mass mail.
>>
>
> Great idea. Time to dust-off the DMP in my store-room then. Clearly,
> terrorists and other anti-social elements, are not fools but are often well
> educated and resourceful. They'd know better than to use facebook, skype or
> google-hangouts to plan their next terror strike, and a typed snail-mail
> sent right under the nose of the sniffing-agents could be their medium of
> choice. So much so for cyber snooping.
>
>
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