Re: (Quartz) India’s new surveilla nce network will make the NSA green with envy

Here's an example of what's possible with telephone and geolocation data:
http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention/


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Banibrata Dutta <[email protected]
> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Akshay Mishra <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Will it work ?
>>
>> If one throws enough money at this... the problem is clearly not
> rocket-science, but that of scale. However, if unlike PRISM, they want to
> do only on-demand:
>  - Record when anyone in list-A makes a call / starts a session / sends a
> SMS/MMS
>  - Record when anyone in list-B receives a call / receives a SMS/MMS
> This, unlike PRISM has a much more manageable scale. Plain old
> packet-capture and deep-packet-inspection will do the trick, and is a well
> solved problem, for as long as they have tap-offs at every network
> ingress/egress point.
>
> Anyway, we have a cap on the cryptographic strength (and thus the
> algorithmic complexity required to do a brute-force crack of the
> communication flow), for the data channels. Not sure if they have anything
> figured out with the likes of Skype or application level cryptography, for
> software providers who do not have a registered office in India, but if
> Big-Tau is intent on watching somebody, they can send the gestapo to if
> they figure out that they cannot crack your comm link but sense comm
> underway.
>
>
>
>
>> On 30 June 2013 18:22, Vickram Crishna <v1clist-/[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, that's not going to win India any brownie points in the
>>> negotiation for data secure safety at the EU.
>>>
>>> But then, the data processing business is not as glamorous as digging up
>>> natural gas.
>>>
>>> Perhaps somebody can persuade NSN to build a million square meter shack
>>> for himself, to establish the credibility of the sector. Of course, he
>>> probably does not know how to do that at company cost.
>>>
>>> Vickram
>>> communicall.wordpress.com
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>>>  ------------------------------
>>> * From: * Manish Malik <[email protected]>;
>>> * To: * india-gii@india-gii org <[email protected]>;
>>> * Subject: * [india-gii] (Quartz) India’s new surveillance network will
>>> make the NSA green with envy
>>> * Sent: * Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:52:02 AM
>>>
>>>   Quartz has a post today on India's CMS:
>>> http://qz.com/99019/no-call-email-or-text-will-be-safe-from-indias-surveillance-network/
>>>
>>> "*The CMS, by contrast, will give nine Indian government
>>> agencies—including the tax department—the power to access, in real-time,
>>> phone conversations, video conferences, text messages, emails, and even
>>> internet search data and social media activity, and will work without any
>>> independent oversight, Reuters reports; the agencies can start monitoring
>>> targets without the approval of the courts or the parliament. The top
>>> bureaucrat in charge of the federal interior ministry and selected
>>> state-level officials will reportedly be authorized to approve surveillance
>>> requests.*"
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manish
>>>
>>>
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