Re: Resignation of Suresh Ramasubramanian and Udhay Shankar from the india-gii moderator role

Sarbajit,
Please desist from personal attacks. Even with valid points, you lose the
moral high ground that way. If you wish to be part of India-gii, please
abide by the rules.

warmly,
Arun
On 18 May 2015 16:14, "Sarbajit Roy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear All
>
> 1) I would like to (again) clarify that I did not call Nikhil at his
> residence at night. I did call his "office" number - as published on
> the internet - at around 11:00 AM in the morning, and got connected to
> his dad who gave me Medianama's correct landline number.
>
> 2) I did this in response to an Official PRESS RELEASE by the Delhi
> Govt about the WIFI scheme which were patently untrue considering that
> I was a participant. Subsequently,after I got disconnected from gii,
> Nikhil and I carried on our discussion offlist, and essentially what I
> suspected was partially confirmed later - by Nikhil himself. Thanks
> Nikhil.
>
> 3) As Kirit has pointed out there is a regime shift from "socialism"
> to "capitalism". My side is defined and I shall point wherever I see
> rotten eggs from the "other" side. I have no evidence before me that
> Nikhil is a rotten egg, in fact I think he is a rather good egg.
>
> 4) I am presently in a fight to the finish with the TRAI on Net
> Neutrality / OTT. I have pointed out quite a few rotten eggs in their
> process / system in the course of my counter-comments on OTT. One of
> the rotten eggs inside TRAI has refused to publish my counter-comments
> along with those of say the SAVETHEINTERNET.IN cabal, despite being
> asked to do so by the outgoing Chairman.
>
> 5) In passing, I sincerely believe that the 1 million, alleged,
> Indian netizens who were conned into SPAMMING Trai with Mahesh and
> Pranesh's cyclostyled garbage on net neutrality, deserve to be
> informed that they did so as the result of a cynical long range
> campaign, partially financed by the overseas online gaming, gambling
> and porn industries. IAC has applied to TRAI for an accurate list of
> all the 1 million respondents, and we shall be contacting them. THAT
> shall certainly be the largest telecom mailing list when if happens.
>
> BTW: Nikhil Pahwa, I'm sorry, if I offended you over India-gii.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 5/18/15, Vickram Crishna <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 18 May 2015 13:55, "Mahesh Murthy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I do not see a single statement of remorse from Sarabjit, nor a
> statement
> > that he will not repeat his bad behaviour.
> >>
> >
> > Nor has he been asked for one, at least not by me.
> >
> >> On what basis has he been re-instated?
> >
> > The current moderation crisis (since we have arrived at a point of
> > inflexion, otherwise we're all pretty good pals, and have actually all
> met
> > each other at one point or other of our lives, no mean feat) is not about
> > his behaviour, it is about moderator actions and consensus. A decision
> > taken has been reversed, with no prejudice to an action of this nature
> > being deemed necessary in the future.
> >
> > However, since it has been mentioned, a word or two of regret for rude
> > unwarranted allegations and inflammatory language might be considered
> most
> > welcome, not by Mahesh alone, who was at the receiving end of some of it,
> > but by all of us who had to suffer the embarrassment of watching a member
> > vomit insinuations loosely at others without provocation.
> >
> > There was an apology of sorts, for phoning Nikhil at home one night,
> which
> > I don't count as it did not concern action or words onlist.
> >
> >> ᐧ
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Arun Mehta <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On india-gii, I do not recall us ever asking anyone to leave. Part of
> > moderation is to cool tempers down, so that it is not necessary.
> >>>
> >>> In any case, a decision of this magnitude should never have been taken
> > without consulting all the moderators.
> >>>
> >>> Sarbajit, please feel free to rejoin the list.
> >>>
> >>> Please note, everyone, that we will not tolerate rudeness, nor making
> > any discussion personal. You may criticize an opinion, but not the person
> > holding the opinion. Please also keep in mind our mandate, discussing
> > India's telecom and Internet woes, and avoid off-topic comments.
> >>>
> >>> Warmly,
> >>> Arun Mehta
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Friends,
> >>>>
> >>>> Udhay and I are, effective immediately, stepping down as moderators of
> > the india-gii mailing list.
> >>>>
> >>>> The recent suspension of Sarabjit Roy from the list for what we both
> > believe to be valid reasons has not met with agreement from the other
> > moderators - who are now considering reinstating him with a warning.
> >>>>
> >>>> In Udhay’s and my views though, the case warranted removal of Mr.Roy
> > from the list and that is the action we took.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have any concerns with, or alternatively, if you support,
> Mr.Roy
> > being reinstated to the mailing list, please feel free to - as you
> prefer -
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Reply to the mailing list
> >>>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Communicate privately with the current india-gii moderators Arun
> > Mehta and Vickram Crishna
> >>>>
> >>>> It has been an interesting 15+ years helping to moderate this list.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, given the circumstances, Udhay and I will continue to host
> the
> > list but will not participate in it further either as moderators, or as
> > members.
> >>>>
> >>>> regards
> >>>> - Suresh Ramasubramanian
> >>>> - Udhay Shankar
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >
>

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