Re: people don't even know Apple in India

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Why should it matters how often or how doggedly does Cook want to try ?

Should we not be thinking what is  good for people of India and whether 
it is good for Indian people to deny  Apple access to Indian market.
The door opens both sides. Not only did Apple not get access to Indian 
consumers, but also the Indian consumers did not get to experience Apple 
product.
And what happens to the basics of democracy?  Should the PM and bunch of 
bureaucrats of a country decide what is
good for its people or should it be left up to the citizens  to make the 
decision?

Unfortunately, India remains a country at the bottom of the economic 
development on most count and very small part of it can afford a brand 
new Iphone (about $700 in US).

Also,  what is wrong with duty free  import of refurbished products if 
it is backed by Apple guarantee.  The refurbished products are usually 
units that come back to factory as customer returns or  for warranty 
repairs  and they  generally last as good as factory first units.

And did not a few years ago Indian Navy spent crores of rupee to buy a 
refurbished Air Craft Carrier from Russia. If Indian defense can be 
trusted on refurbished ships,  why cannot customers use refurbished phones?


This refurbished aircraft things begs a question:  Were are these 
fit-for-nothing sarkari scientists (at DRDO/ISRO/IITS  etc) and engineer 
who collect salaries each month but do not produce anything of value?


Go figure!!

Sincerely,
Ratnendra Pandey




On 5/30/2016 10:05 PM, Arun Mehta wrote:
> I believe Steve Jobs tried India, and gave up totally within a few 
> weeks. No doubt Cook will show more staying power, but I think this is 
> a bit late for Apple to make much of a dent. What do you think?
> warmly,
> Arun
> http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tim-cooks-india-visit-gives-apple-little-to-cheer-about-for-now-1409466
> "In India, carriers in general sell virtually no phones and it is out 
> in retail - and retail is many, many different small shops," Cook told 
> analysts recently. "Because smartphones there are low-end, primarily 
> because of the network and the economics, the market potential has not 
> been as great," added Cook, likening India to the Chinese market 7-10 
> years ago.
> ...
> With per capita income of $1,570 as of 2014 and the average smartphone 
> selling for less than $90, a third of the global average, India's 
> market growth is predominantly led by cheaper phones. High-end 
> smartphones - costing from $300 - make up only 6 percent of the 
> market, or just 6 million units, according to Morgan Stanley.
> ...
> Apple's brand awareness ranks 10th in India, trailing Samsung, Sony, 
> Blackberry and some local rivals. Almost half of respondents in a 
> Morgan Stanley survey said they do not know Apple.
>
>
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    Why should it matters how often or how doggedly does Cook want to
    try ? <br>
    <br>
    Should we not be thinking what is=A0 good for people of India and
    whether it is good for Indian people to deny=A0 Apple access to Indian
    market.<br>
    The door opens both sides. Not only did Apple not get access to
    Indian consumers=2C but also the Indian consumers did not get to
    experience Apple product. =A0 <br>
    And what happens to the basics of democracy?=A0 Should the PM and
    bunch of bureaucrats of a country decide what is <br>
    good for its people or should it be left up to the citizens=A0 to make
    the decision?<br>
    <br>
    Unfortunately=2C India remains a country at the bottom of the economic
    development on most count and very small part of it can afford a
    brand new Iphone (about $700 in US).<br>
    <br>
    Also=2C=A0 what is wrong with duty free=A0 import of refurbished produc=
ts
    if it is backed by Apple guarantee.=A0 The refurbished products are
    usually units that come back to factory as customer returns or=A0 for
    warranty repairs=A0 and they=A0 generally last as good as factory first
    units. <br>
    <br>
    And did not a few years ago Indian Navy spent crores of rupee to buy
    a refurbished Air Craft Carrier from Russia. If Indian defense can
    be trusted on refurbished ships=2C=A0 why cannot customers use=A0
    refurbished phones?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    This refurbished aircraft things begs a question:=A0 Were are these
    fit-for-nothing sarkari scientists (at DRDO/ISRO/IITS=A0 etc) and
    engineer who collect salaries each month but do not produce anything
    of value?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Go figure!!<br>
    <br>
    Sincerely=2C<br>
    Ratnendra Pandey<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/2016 10:05 PM=2C Arun Mehta
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cite=3D"mid:CAHk29vTCjo=3DQ-Tn=3DbvLb_eK+eGZXkVDXwqeQmSEhsEayyZnwKg-Rq2MYuBUFGs@public.gmane.org=
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        <div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Roboto=2C sans-serif"><span
              style=3D"font-size:16px=3Bline-height:24px">I believe Steve
              Jobs tried India=2C and gave up totally within a few weeks.
              No doubt Cook will show more staying power=2C but I think
              this is a bit late for Apple to make much of a dent. What
              do you think?</span></font></div>
        <div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Roboto=2C sans-serif"><span
              style=3D"font-size:16px=3Bline-height:24px">warmly=2C</span><=
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        <div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Roboto=2C sans-serif"><span
              style=3D"font-size:16px=3Bline-height:24px">Arun</span></font=
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        <div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Roboto=2C sans-serif"><span
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f=3D"http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tim-cooks-india-visit-gives-apple-littl=
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india-visit-gives-apple-little-to-cheer-about-for-now-1409466</a></a></span=
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        <span
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          India=2C carriers in general sell virtually no phones and it is
          out in retail - and retail is many=2C many different small
          shops=2C" Cook told analysts recently. "Because smartphones
          there are low-end=2C primarily because of the network and the
          economics=2C the market potential has not been as great=2C" added
          Cook=2C likening India to the Chinese market 7-10 years ago.</spa=
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        <span
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          per capita income of $1=2C570 as of 2014 and the average
          smartphone selling for less than $90=2C a third of the global
          average=2C India's market growth is predominantly led by cheaper
          phones. High-end smartphones - costing from $300 - make up
          only 6 percent of the market=2C or just 6 million units=2C
          according to Morgan Stanley.</span><br
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          brand awareness ranks 10th in India=2C trailing Samsung=2C Sony=
=2C
          Blackberry and some local rivals. Almost half of respondents
          in a Morgan Stanley survey said they do not know Apple.</span><br
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