Re: is automation as big as they say?
Sameer Panchangam <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:12:58 +0800
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--===============5140804153608201473== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c07fe3c72d55e054b39366b --94eb2c07fe3c72d55e054b39366b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 IMO it depends on the laws of the land. If laws cant be changed, nothing much is going is going to change. If America will only have driverless cars in 2 decades then why not IT desks without Engineers in India. But then there'll still be people managing software behind those computers behind those desks and softwares that run the driverless cars. On 21-Mar-2017 2:16 PM, "Kiritkumar Lathia" <[email protected]> wrote: > It seems to me that the main reason for less new hire (short term) is > Trump/USA uncertainties and major difficulties in getting US visas leading > to less US outsourcing. This has been the classical back office / > maintenance work. Indian companies may take up some slack as more have web > presence as you mention but this is not as lucrative as US market. > > In the other hand, the automation and disruptive technologies (I prefer to > lump them with 5G tag) is just beginning with no clear view - just like > first introduction of iPhone which was a "hand held internet access device" > with lousy voice call capabilities. Look at how it evolved to smart phones > of today. > > So new skills will be needed and adaptation to these but I see this as a > must around 2022 -2025 timeframe when it might be cheaper to migrate to new > platforms rather then maintain current one, hence possible negative impact > on today's Indian IT industry which is essentially in maintaining legacy > systems. They need to change as per article so pressure in new hires; IMHO. > > On 21 Mar 2017 06:15, "Arun Mehta" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> http://www.firstpost.com/business/cognizant-may-lay-off- >> 6000-tech-grads-will-have-to-upscale-skills-to-stay-relevan >> t-survive-3344404.html >> >> I agree, that with apps, ATMs and online access, users are doing a lot of >> data entry that was done at the back end earlier. I also agree that >> artificial intelligence and other automation technologies have made big >> strides recently. >> >> But does that justify Nasscom's estimate of 20-25 percent reduction in >> jobs over the next three years? >> >> I can understand that companies touting these technologies will use hype. >> But I don't see how such drastic shrinkage will happen. >> >> For instance, many Indian companies maintain websites. These use a wide >> variety of technologies -- how is anyone going to automate old websites? >> >> Those feeling the pinch, please pipe up! >> >> warmly, >> Arun Mehta >> >> _______________________________________________ >> India-gii mailing list >> India-gii-IAPFreCvJWP2/[email protected] >> https://lists.india-gii.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii >> >> > _______________________________________________ > India-gii mailing list > India-gii-IAPFreCvJWP2/[email protected] > https://lists.india-gii.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii > > --94eb2c07fe3c72d55e054b39366b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">IMO it depends on the laws of the land. If laws cant be c= hanged, nothing much is going is going to change.=C2=A0 If America will onl= y have driverless cars in 2 decades then why not IT desks without Engineers= in India. But then there'll still be people managing software behind t= hose computers behind those desks and softwares that run the driverless car= s.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On = 21-Mar-2017 2:16 PM, "Kiritkumar Lathia" <<a href=3D"mailto:kp= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1= px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">It seems to me that the m= ain reason for less new hire (short term) is Trump/USA uncertainties and ma= jor difficulties in getting US visas leading to less US outsourcing. This h= as been the classical back office / maintenance work. Indian companies may = take up some slack as more have web presence as you mention but this is not= as lucrative as US market.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">In= the other hand, the automation and disruptive technologies (I prefer to lu= mp them with 5G tag) is just beginning with no clear view - just like first= introduction of iPhone which was a "hand held internet access device&= quot; with lousy voice call capabilities. Look at how it evolved to smart p= hones of today.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So new s= kills will be needed and adaptation to these but I see this as a must aroun= d 2022 -2025 timeframe when it might be cheaper to migrate to new platforms= rather then maintain current one, hence possible negative impact on today&= #39;s Indian IT industry which is essentially in maintaining legacy systems= . They need to change as per article so pressure in new hires; IMHO.</div><= /div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 21 Mar 20= 17 06:15, "Arun Mehta" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribut= ion"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le= ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><d= iv><div><div><a href=3D"http://www.firstpost.com/business/cognizant-may-lay= -off-6000-tech-grads-will-have-to-upscale-skills-to-stay-relevant-survive-3= 344404.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.firstpost.com/busin<wbr>ess/cogni= zant-may-lay-off-<wbr>6000-tech-grads-will-have-to-<wbr>upscale-skills-to-s= tay-relevan<wbr>t-survive-3344404.html</a><br><br></div>I agree, that with = apps, ATMs and online access, users are doing a lot of data entry that was = done at the back end earlier. I also agree that artificial intelligence and= other automation technologies have made big strides recently. <br><br></di= v>But does that justify Nasscom's estimate of 20-25 percent reduction i= n jobs over the next three years?<br><br></div>I can understand that compan= ies touting these technologies will use hype. But I don't see how such = drastic shrinkage will happen.<br><br></div>For instance, many Indian compa= nies maintain websites. These use a wide variety of technologies -- how is = anyone going to automate old websites?<br><br></div>Those feeling the pinch= , please pipe up!<br><br></div>warmly,<br></div>Arun Mehta<br></div> <br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> India-gii mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:India-gii-IAPFreCvJWP2/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">India-gi= [email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.india-gii.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii" rel=3D"n= oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.india-gii.org/ma<wbr>ilman/listi= nfo/india-gii</a><br> <br></blockquote></div></div> <br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> India-gii mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:India-gii-IAPFreCvJWP2/[email protected]">India-gii-IAPFreCvJWP2/[email protected]= org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.india-gii.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii" rel=3D"n= oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.india-gii.org/<wbr>mailman/listi= nfo/india-gii</a><br> <br></blockquote></div></div> --94eb2c07fe3c72d55e054b39366b-- --===============5140804153608201473== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KSW5kaWEtZ2lp IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApJbmRpYS1naWlAbGlzdHMuaW5kaWEtZ2lpLm9yZwpodHRwczovL2xpc3Rz LmluZGlhLWdpaS5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9pbmRpYS1naWkK --===============5140804153608201473==--