RE: blug-general Digest, Vol 6, Issue 18

Be There or Be Square (located in the east end of lower level of Oriental
Plaza) has free wifi.  It's a Cantonese styled restaurant that tries hard to
be a coffee bar too.   I'm not sure about free beer, but you might get free
tea ...

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Today's Topics:

   1. Desktop Linux Analysis (Richard Ford)
   2. RE: Meeting Venue (Ali Zein Kazmi)
   3. RE: Meeting Venue (Richard Ford)
   4. RE: Meeting Venue - My August Article on Oracle. (Richard Ford)


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As someone with the requisite credentials in bars, clubs and restaurants,
and self appointed social secretary to the LUG, I hail myself as critique
par excellence on Beijing venues. Below are my choices in order of
preference.

Bar Blu - Expensive drinks, although I am sure we can talk to the owner,
they have wifi and a super sexy wooden floored terrace. The fountain is very
cooling. The music s great, they have an overhead project and would probably
be willing to host us indoors or outdoors. The upstairs in quiet. They have
food which is nominally prices. A burger and fries is for about RMB 35,
salads for about 25. The drinks average around the price of the meal. Its
very close to other extremely hot eating spots on the north street.

Grampas - Non pretentious food and drink specials all night long. Lots of
room. I don't think they are busy for a Tuesday evening. And we can probably
get an even better deal from them. However, their music is bad, they don't
have an overhead projector. They do have a television and dvd player, if we
ever decide to watch videos. If its dinner time, and we need food, then
there is not any place where you can get a filling meal at the price that
Grampa serves at.

John Bull - We may want to consider changing dates. These guys have events
ongoing upstairs. And are generally busy every day of the week. They may be
open to giving away free beer. But this needs to be talked about with Frank.

Red Yard - Great ambience. Will lose its value if you start going there too
often. Wont be a place you want to get sexy with your girl if you are
getting sexy with your computer. You know what I mean?

Artifacts 2 - Do they have wifi? I am sure Mike can hook this place up.
Apparently they have a really nice view of the park. Still make the best
Sangria in Beijing. 

Hollywood - I would rather not go to any place where I have lunch everyday.
They do however have a very good banfan. I don't know about the wifi. The
seating is a little off. Just don't want to have to deal with anyone local
and tell them what we want. Just sounds like a hassle.

-Ali

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Alrighty,

David (The President formerly known as Yann) and I will go in search of cool
venues this Saturday or Sunday. On the list is:

Bar Blu
Artifacts 2
John Bull
Red Yard
Grampas
Hollywood (SOHO)

To qualify the bar needs WIFI, cheap drinks and good food.  However, cool
venues like Red Yard, may not have to meet all conditions, I have a soft
spot in my heart for Si He Yuan's

Kind Regards,

Michael Iannini
President, BeijingLUG

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> Ali Zein Kazmi wrote:
> > Grampas (Next to Grammas) also have wireless, beers and cocktails 
> > for
15. 
I
> > know its not very fancy. But we can do our work and get cheap food.
> 
> That sounds good to me. John Bull's not bad, either, but it does get
> pretty crowded.
> 
> Adam
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