Re: Advice please - meeting tomorrow Tuesday 9pm?

Alex King <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:29:59 +1200
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Keyboard and mouse unrecognised is a pretty unusual problem.


I'd say you have two options.  Either re-install, or bring it to a Dunlug 
meeting for others to have a look at (it's a laptop?)


If you're going to reinstall, you can boot from a Ubuntu CD into a "live" 
system, and use that to copy any files you need to save off to an external 
hard drive first.  (i.e. documents, your /home directory, or the whole 
filesystem if it will fit on your external drive.)  Then download the version 
of Ubuntu you want, burn it to a CD, and install from that, wiping your 
existing install.  (Actually you might be able to install over the top and 
save your current /home files, but I don't know enough aobut Ubuntu - someone 
else might)

If you want some of us to have some fun while rescuing your system, bring it 
to a Dunlug meeting.  The meeting times are nominally 
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/[email protected]) 
but no-one actually goes unless there is traffic on the list first. The next 
time slot is tomorrow.  I couldn't make it to that until 9pm, Tuesdays clash 
for a lot of us (for different reasons) Then there is a meeting scheduled for 
Wednesday 13th July, 7.30pm.  If either of those appeals, email the list.

Cheers,
Alex

On 27/06/16 10:36, Kevan Quinn wrote:
> Hi Alex
>
> Hooked it up to Ethernet and booted. It started Ubuntu 15 but reported 
> system problems. Keyboard and mouse unrecognised, so I can't do anything. 
> Advice?
>
> Kevan
>
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> *From:* Alex King <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 26 June 2016 7:22 p.m.
> *To:* Kevan Quinn
> *Cc:* dunluG
> *Subject:* Re: [dunlug] Advice please
>
> OK, so maybe there is a problem with the internet connection?
>
>
> Try:
>
> ping -c5 8.8.8.8
>
>
> and
>
>
> ping -c5 www.google.co.nz
>
>
> to check the internet connection and see if either or both give you "64 
> bytes from ....." (success).
>
>
> If it's a laptop connected through wireless, then things breaking during the 
> upgrade can cut off internet access and put you in a catch-22 where it's 
> difficult to fix without internet.
>
>
> If it's using ethernet (plug-in) internet connection it's less likely to break.
>
>
> On 26/06/16 19:15, Kevan Quinn wrote:
>>
>> Sure. I tried a few things and found that tab highlighted the ok, then 
>> enter accepted the license. Download failed, as did the resolving and 
>> sub-process.
>>
>> Kevan
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2016 7:11 PM, Alex King <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the apt and aptitude commands may require input.
>>
>>
>> There are different forms that input can take (i.e. what's known as curses 
>> and tty frontends), so it's difficult to give give a comprehensive answer.
>>
>>
>> However, it's difficult to go really wrong, usually the default answers are 
>> fine, and it should be possible to reconfigure later differently if needed.
>>
>>
>> Start with just using enter and spacebar, or you might need Y or N or to 
>> type numbers to choose an option.
>>
>>
>> If you're seeing a blue screen the the ok is surrounded by <> and lines, it 
>> could be a text "button" that's activated with the spacebar.
>>
>>
>> Do you mind if I post back to dunlug so google can help the next person?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 26/06/16 18:40, Kevan Quinn wrote:
>>> Hi Alex
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response.
>>>
>>> I ran the first command (opting for the default no when prompted) and it 
>>> completed.
>>>
>>> I then ran the second command, which soon brought up a text screen that 
>>> I'm stuck in. It's a MS EULA license agreement. At the bottom it has <Ok>
>>>
>>> Is it requiring input? should I type <Ok> ?
>>>
>>> Kevan
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Alex King <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 26 June 2016 3:50 p.m.
>>> *To:* Kevan Quinn
>>> *Subject:* Re: [dunlug] Advice please
>>>
>>> I guess you mean a text login prompt, a black terminal screen?
>>>
>>>
>>> Try logging in with your username and password. ( You should get a $ prompt)
>>>
>>>
>>> Then become "root" with the following command:
>>> sudo su
>>> (Enter your password, you get a # prompt)
>>>
>>> Now try the following commands, and let us know what they result in:
>>>
>>> dpkg --configure -a
>>> apt-get -f install
>>> aptitude update
>>> aptitude safe-upgrade
>>> aptitude full-upgrade
>>>
>>> (if those executed without error messages you could try restarting the 
>>> computer by typing "reboot".)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/06/16 15:39, Kevan Quinn wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I was running Ubuntu 14.04 when notice of an upgrade to 15 came through. 
>>>> I accepted it and alllowed it to download and run. It got almost all the 
>>>> way through but didn't seem to finish. I left it and went to bed. The 
>>>> next morning my 13 year old daughter got to the PC first. I don't know if 
>>>> whatever she did had an effect, but now it won't start an o/s. I'm left 
>>>> at a login prompt without any Ubuntu knowledge. Can anyone guide me please?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Kevan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> DunLUG mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://lists.ethernal.org/listinfo/dunlug
>>>> DunLUG Wiki -http://dunlug.kallisti.net.nz/
>>>
>>
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    <p>Keyboard and mouse unrecognised is a pretty unusual problem.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>I'd say you have two options.  Either re-install, or bring it to
      a Dunlug meeting for others to have a look at (it's a laptop?)<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    If you're going to reinstall, you can boot from a Ubuntu CD into a
    "live" system, and use that to copy any files you need to save off
    to an external hard drive first.  (i.e. documents, your /home
    directory, or the whole filesystem if it will fit on your external
    drive.)  Then download the version of Ubuntu you want, burn it to a
    CD, and install from that, wiping your existing install.  (Actually
    you might be able to install over the top and save your current
    /home files, but I don't know enough aobut Ubuntu - someone else
    might)<br>
    <br>
    If you want some of us to have some fun while rescuing your system,
    bring it to a Dunlug meeting.  The meeting times are nominally <a
href="https://calendar.google.com/calendar/[email protected]"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://calendar.google.com/calendar/[email protected]">https://calendar.google.com/calendar/[email protected]</a></a>)
    but no-one actually goes unless there is traffic on the list first. 
    The next time slot is tomorrow.  I couldn't make it to that until
    9pm, Tuesdays clash for a lot of us (for different reasons) Then
    there is a meeting scheduled for Wednesday 13th July, 7.30pm.  If
    either of those appeals, email the list.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Alex<br>
    <br>
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                                          </font>Hooked it up to
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                                          started Ubuntu 15 but reported
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            King <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 26 June 2016 7:22 p.m.<br>
            <b>To:</b> Kevan Quinn<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> dunluG<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [dunlug] Advice please</font>
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          <p>OK, so maybe there is a problem with the internet
            connection?</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>Try:</p>
          <p>ping -c5 8.8.8.8</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>and <br>
          </p>
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          </p>
          <p>ping -c5 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              href="http://www.google.co.nz">www.google.co.nz</a></p>
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          <p>to check the internet connection and see if either or both
            give you "64 bytes from ....." (success).</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>If it's a laptop connected through wireless, then things
            breaking during the upgrade can cut off internet access and
            put you in a catch-22 where it's difficult to fix without
            internet.</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>If it's using ethernet (plug-in) internet connection it's
            less likely to break.<br>
          </p>
          <br>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/06/16 19:15, Kevan Quinn
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            <p dir="ltr">Sure. I tried a few things and found that tab
              highlighted the ok, then enter accepted the license.
              Download failed, as did the resolving and sub-process.</p>
            <p dir="ltr">Kevan <br>
            </p>
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              <p>Yes, the apt and aptitude commands may require input.</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>There are different forms that input can take (i.e.
                what's known as curses and tty frontends), so it's
                difficult to give give a comprehensive answer.</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>However, it's difficult to go really wrong, usually the
                default answers are fine, and it should be possible to
                reconfigure later differently if needed.</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>Start with just using enter and spacebar, or you might
                need Y or N or to type numbers to choose an option.</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>If you're seeing a blue screen the the ok is surrounded
                by &lt;&gt; and lines, it could be a text "button"
                that's activated with the spacebar.</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>Do you mind if I post back to dunlug so google can help
                the next person?</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>Cheers,</p>
              <p>Alex<br>
              </p>
              <br>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/06/16 18:40, Kevan
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                            Thanks for your response.<br>
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                            I ran the first command (opting for the
                            default no when prompted) and it completed.<br>
                            <br>
                            I then ran the second command, which soon
                            brought up a text screen that I'm stuck
                            in. It's a MS EULA license agreement. At the
                            bottom it has &lt;Ok&gt;
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                                                      Is it requiring
                                                      input? should I
                                                      type &lt;Ok&gt; ?<br>
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                        href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a><br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 26 June 2016 3:50 p.m.<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Kevan Quinn<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [dunlug] Advice please</font>
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                    <p>I guess you mean a text login prompt, a black
                      terminal screen?</p>
                    <p><br>
                    </p>
                    <p>Try logging in with your username and password. 
                      ( You should get a $ prompt)</p>
                    <p><br>
                    </p>
                    Then become "root" with the following command:
                    <pre>sudo su
</pre>
                    (Enter your password, you get a # prompt)<br>
                    <br>
                    Now try the following commands, and let us know what
                    they result in:<br>
                    <br>
                    <pre>dpkg --configure -a
apt-get -f install
aptitude update
aptitude safe-upgrade
aptitude full-upgrade
</pre>
                    <p>(if those executed without error messages you
                      could try restarting the computer by typing
                      "reboot".)<br>
                    </p>
                    <p><br>
                    </p>
                    <p>Cheers,</p>
                    <p>Alex<br>
                    </p>
                    <p><br>
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/06/16 15:39,
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                                                          I was running
                                                          Ubuntu 14.04
                                                          when notice of
                                                          an upgrade to
                                                          15 came
                                                          through. I
                                                          accepted it
                                                          and alllowed
                                                          it to download
                                                          and run. It
                                                          got almost all
                                                          the way
                                                          through but
                                                          didn't seem to
                                                          finish. I left
                                                          it and went to
                                                          bed. The next
                                                          morning my 13
                                                          year old
                                                          daughter got
                                                          to the PC
                                                          first. I don't
                                                          know if
                                                          whatever she
                                                          did had an
                                                          effect, but
                                                          now it won't
                                                          start an o/s.
                                                          I'm left at a
                                                          login prompt
                                                          without any
                                                          Ubuntu
                                                          knowledge. Can
                                                          anyone guide
                                                          me please?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </font>Thanks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Kevan <br>
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