Re: Down with Canonical - Boycott Ubuntu Spyware

Just because someone wrote more than two paragraphs of text and cites some URLs does not make it a robust criticism. Thomi hit it on other head - if you have something to contribute then do so - coming here and spreading FUD is not contributing. Its pretty easy to see how the original post could have been made a positive contribution instead of a cry to take up arms and boycott (are we children?!)

By all means discuss an issue but consider your words - you CAN rip a shred off someone for serving you the wrong food or not quickly enough but you don't have to be that person.

-B.

Kathinka <[email protected]> wrote:

>Thomi objects to robust criticism of work:
>
>>You wouldn't talk about
>> someone's creation to their faces in this manner, so don't do it online.
>
>He's wrong.  People who provide goods and services, and those who work
>for an employer, have to face criticism where their work has not come
>up to the standard expected.  Sometimes the criticism is richly
>deserved e.g. restaurant where diner is informed that a dish is
>gluten-free when it is not.  Sometimes it is 50-50 e.g. builder who
>builds architect-designed house suitable for dry climate, not for
>Auckland.  He could have warned the client, but it was the architect's
>job to design for the conditions and the client's not to insist on a
>design unsuitable for the conditions.
>
>Artists - painters, actors, sculptors, musicians - face public
>criticism including from people who have not paid (public art, music
>on the radio) for their works.
>
>Employers are constrained, by the possibility of legal action, in the
>language they can use to employees - but unlike clients and consumers,
>they can with due process get rid of an employee who does not please
>them.
>
>It's no good any of these other people saying, "But I was trying
>really hard, I work long hours, don't speak harshly to me because that
>hurts my feelings."
>
>Well they can SAY it of course.
>
>Kathinka.
>
>On 28 January 2013 08:01, Thomi Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 28 January 2013 03:06, Chris Bannister <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, so we are supposed to walk on egg shells because of this?
>>> But, I do agree that the subject wording is a bit on the strong side,
>>> although
>>> perhaps understandable considering the expectations of FOSS and
>>> GNU/Linux.
>>>
>>
>> Yes. It's called "being a decent human being". You wouldn't talk about
>> someone's creation to their faces in this manner, so don't do it online.
>>
>>>
>>> It will be a sad day when issues can't be discussed openly and without
>>> any fear of retribution. Some people actually run Linux because it is
>>> not led by decisions made in some board room.
>>>
>>
>> I welcome constructive discussion. I've already accepted an invitation to
>> wax lyrical about the Ubuntu phone. When that happens, I'll answer any
>> questions they have, as long as I'm able. I don't welcome ranty,
>> poorly-researched attacks with no substantive value.
>>
>> What pisses me off in general is the fact that we get worse community press
>> than Apple. We get worse community press than Microsoft. The icing on the
>> cake is that the people writing these articles are Linux users - they're the
>> people we're building this thing for. They're the people we work 12 hour
>> days for. They're our bloody target audience, and some of them show their
>> gratitude by flinging mud at the target of the day.
>>
>> Please, by all means - contribute to the project. Hundreds, if not thousands
>> of people do already (I guess it depends on how you count it). File a bug,
>> or do some translations, or do ISO testing, or write a juju charm, or write
>> some documentation, or fix some bugs, or join the local Loco team, or host
>> an installfest, or talk at your local high school... many of you do these
>> things already - and I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your
>> effort.
>>
>> If we want Linux to succeed on the desktop/phone/tablet/pc/car/whatever, we
>> need to find a way to silence the trolls.
>>
>> --
>> Thomi Richards
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