Re: Down with Canonical - Boycott Ubuntu Spyware

Given that the subject is essentially a call to war against the source 
of income for certain members of this list, I think the response was 
very polite and articulate. Remember this is how the response started.

"Hi,

This has been discussed here many times. Please consider if you're 
adding anything new to the discussion before posting. Please also 
realise that several people who work for Canonical, on Ubuntu, are on 
this list (including me). Picking the language you use more carefully 
can help prevent insult and flame wars.

More on this below..."

Where in the criticism's were answered in a clear and concise manner.

I think the original poster needs to think about his communication 
methods if he wants to be taken seriously in these type of forums. I 
note from the first post on this subject, the line "At the moment I'm 
using Debian stable,".

This is a stark departure from a post made a few days after I had 
suggested that very same distro which I include below.

"Kia ora

Just a note to all those who were recommending Debian as an
light-weight OS for GNU/Linux beginners.

I just installed Debian Squeeze on a desktop I have here. It's quite
nice, but I very quickly came across issues which would have totally
stumped me if I was a beginner. Things like:
* The complete lack of a newbie-friendly GUI for installing more
applications from repos
* Epiphany crashing as soon as I login to Gmail

Also, as an intermediate line commander, I found no 'sudo', which
threw me. I remembered how to switch to root and back, but it's a
pain. Being told off by the terminal, and told I would be reported to
my sysadmin for trying to sudo without permission rubbed me up the
wrong way too. The last thing I want from a Free Software OS is a
burocratic attitude.

Also, the install was quite torturous compared to installing Ubuntu,
which in the newer versions will ask you all the annoying questions at
the start, then proceed to do all the time-consuming installing base
system/ downloading/ updating etc. in one go. I had to install from a
CD in the end, as I was unable to create a Debian installer on a USB
stick. No idea how to install Debian on a system with no floppy or CD
drive for now. Unetbootin made a live system that booted, but was
unable to find a kernel to install at the end of the 'install base
system' process (I suspect it was looking for it using CD-ROM drive).
The Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu couldn't even finish running; it
balked at the reference to "GNU/Linux"

Ma te wā
Strypey"

Stuart.

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