Re: Torrents

Rene Bartosh <[email protected]> Mon, 8 Aug 2011 19:31:16 +1200
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.linux.hawkes-bay
Message-ID <CAO_22am_9Upp_Vn_kRfNtURWhzecznyKbX2f5uvh=1DkcQ179w@mail.gmail.com>
The way I understand it, these infringement notices are generated by
third-party agencies who troll the peer lists of public torrents which
contain supposed "copyright infringing material". So if you are not
downloading copyrighted material from a public torrent, you shouldn't
have anything to worry about. If you are downloading material which is
not copyright-infringing (e.g. linux ISOs) or are using a private
tracker, you should be okay.

Note that nobody is saying that p2p software is illegal, just that
using it in a silly way (downloading copyright material from a public
tracker) will land you in hot water.

On a side note, I will be interested to see if all of the infringement
notices given out under this system relate to bittorrent, or if the
third party "monitoring agencies" are monitoring other p2p proctocols
g such as gnutella (limewire et al), directconnect, edonkey etc. and
also for content hosted on web servers.

Regards,

Rene

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Brett Wilkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> The copyright holder must notify the ISP of copyright infringement, and I
> believe they must also provide some form of evidence (such as an IP address
> in a log or something). If the infringement has occurred within a certain
> number of days, the the ISP will send out a notice of infringement.
>
> You may challenge this notice, or you may ignore it.
>
> There's more to it, but the key point here is, the copyright holder must
> notify the ISP first. You can't be accused of piracy with accusation from
> the copyright holder.
>
> --Brett
>
> On 6/08/11 8:49 AM, Chris Morris wrote:
>
> The law as it stands now, assumes guilt.
> If you use p2p software, you are a pirate.
> You must prove your innocence in court if challenged.
>
> A costly exercise I'm guessing.
>
> chris
>
>
>
> On 06/08/11 08:26, Helen Burnett wrote:
>
> I am thinking of keeping my p2p software, and torrenting every single legal
> thing i can find.
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Daniel Faulknor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> As far as I know, its illegal (copyrighted) content only, however the FAQ
>> put out by internetNZ (3strikes.net.nz) suggests avoiding all P2P activity,
>> to be on the safe side.
>>
>> A great number of people are downloading their linux iso's offshore, and
>> then downloading them to NZ via other protocols. Feel free to contact me off
>> list for more information =)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dan
>> On 6/08/2011, at 7:39 AM, Chris Morris wrote:
>>
>> > It seems now that if you use p2p software to download the latest linux
>> > iso's you may well be accused of illegal file sharing. Are they triggering
>> > infringement notices on the use of p2p software rather than whats being
>> > downloaded with it?
>> >
>> > I find torrents are the fastest way to download linux iso's
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/connect/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501833&objectid=10743286
>> >
>> >
>> > chris
>> >
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