Patrick Volkerding troubles; Slackware Store has been problematic
Rick Moen <rick-IyCrq+X4Fdq2oZ/[email protected]> Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:29:12 -0700
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A Web forum post
(https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/donating-to-slackware-4175634729/#post5882751, quoted below)
is credibly believed[1] to be from Slackware founder / director / BDFL
Patrick Volkerding. Further follow-up discussion appears to be
happening on HackerNews at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17598685 .
People are suggesting the Usual Suspects (Patreon, PayPal, GoFundMe,
Bitcoin, etc.) for alternatively ways of supporting Patrick, but various issues
exist with those. (A Bitcoin address has been widely posted, but to my
knowledge there's no confirmation that this actually reaches Patrick
rather than someone else entirely.) Longtime Debian developer Joey Hess
became so disenchanted with Patreon that he moved to competitor
Liberapay[2], which he now recommends. (See Joey's comments about Patreon
problems at https://www.patreon.com/joeyh .)
Some also (rather raucous) discussing is occurring on the ever-fractious
/r/linux/ subReddit, at
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/91csco/the_guy_that_makesoversees_slackware_needs_some/ .
07-23-2018, 03:14 PM
volkerdi
Slackware Maintainer
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Minnesota
Distribution: Slackware! :-)
Posts: 1,530
I told them to take it down [RM: the link on store.slackware.com
for donating money] or I'd suspend the DNS for the store.
I've been mulling over exactly how to tell you all this, and I guess
this is as good a place as any. The store has been ripping me off
horribly, and I'm very nearly broke. I have no evidence that they've
ever done anything with donations besides line their own pockets. I've
not been paid any money by them in two years. That was upon the 14.2
release (and followed another long period of time with no income). The
14.2 release generated nearly $100K in revenue. The store gave me $15K,
and later said that I was "overpaid".
When I agreed to set up the store, it was structured as a company
where they owned 60%, and my wife and I owned 40%. I had not yet escaped
California and would have quickly gone broke there with a house
underwater had I not taken the deal. And 60% seemed fair, since the idea
was that the company would be providing health insurance, paying for the
production of the goods, and handling shipping and related customer
service. And when my daughter was born and needed surgery and continuing
medical attention I could hardly jeopardize our insurance in the days
before the ACA. I was between a rock and a hard place like many
residents of the US. Since then, the store has ceased to provide any
benefits, and shouldn't even be getting a 50/50 split in my opinion,
much less looting the coffers for 81+% (anything they want to spend
money on is an expense, apparently, while any expenses I have to support
the actual project come out of the peanuts they toss me). I only found
out about how bad it really was last year when I finally managed to get
some numbers out of them. I thought the sales were just that bad, and
was really rather depressed about it. Another side note - the ownership
of the 60% portion of the store changed hands behind my back. Nobody
thought they needed to tell me about this. At that point I'd say things
got considerably worse for me.
Still not sure how to move forward, but I have some hope that the
community might think that my work is and has been worth supporting. If
at all possible I'd like to get away from replicating physical media
which seems to be a lost cause. T-shirts? Well, maybe, but I don't see
that providing a reasonable income either. I'm wondering how Patreon
would do. It would at least be better than nothing, which is where I am
now.
Through all of this I have continued to work hard towards getting
Slackware 15.0 released because I believe it will be by far the best
release we've ever had, and because I'm dedicated to my work and the
community that uses it. I've never really been in this for the money. At
any given juncture (including now) I've had numerous opportunities that
would support me and my family far better and would provide us with the
things that we need rather desperately. I mean, I'm sitting here in a
house with a giant hole in the roof, a broken door sealed with duct
tape, and a failed air conditioning condenser that I can't afford to
fix, my wife has been driving on a spare tire for weeks, my teeth need
serious attention again, and I only just got a machine here with UEFI
for the first time (bought a used machine... really out of my budget but
it had to be done).
I'm open to suggestions at this point. As far as Slackware 15.0 goes,
I've been testing PAM and Kerberos here and have given quite some
thought to trying to get them merged (or at least in /testing) so that
we can have proper support for Active Directory and NFS. Plasma 5 has
be en a consideration as well, although frankly it's grown much larger
than GNOME was back when I decided that should be spun off for third
party maintenance. If that's going in, we really need to analyze which
dependencies would not be used outside of Plasma and stick all of those
in the KDE series. I'm as tired of the pollution of the L series as the
rest of you are.
"I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue."
-- Dave '-ddt->` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[1] Two days have passed from that posting without Patrick rising to say
'Hey, that wasn't me.' Also, it's a posting account with 16 years of
history.
[2] The politics surrounding online payment systems are somewhat twisty.
FWIW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberapay