Re: Renaming of SVLUG Meetup to SFLUG Meetup
Rick Moen <rick-IyCrq+X4Fdq2oZ/[email protected]> Thu, 4 Apr 2019 14:57:52 -0700
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Kevin D. and I had an offlist chat, and I believe he'll soon post about a revised plan for the Meetup (naming it back). But I wanted to post a few thoughts, while they're fresh in my mind: Renaming the meetup to no longer be called 'SVLUG - Silicon Valley Linux User Group' is something done at my request, so, those who disapproved, please blame me and not Kevin -- but here's why I made that suggestion: 1. Kevin being now no longer local substantially increases the risk of the 'SVLUG' meetup going dead and unmaintainable, an outcome we've _already experienced once before_, and would like to avoid recurring. This meetup was created by a different generous volunteer in 2012, and administered by him for the following year. After a year, however, that volunteer ceased paying the required organiser fees (either $180/year or $120/year for the two most-used plans, each entitling the organiser to operate three meetups), at which point the meetup became _frozen_ -- without SVLUG either being warned or having any right to remedy the situation. Nobody had access to alter or remove obsolete information and, instead of being an asset, the meetup became a problem, giving Meetup denizens the inaccurate impression SVLUG was dead. This unhappy situation persisted until Kevin volunteered to readopt the defunct meetup, perhaps a year or so later. Meetup, Inc.'s iron rule is: Nobody gets access unless someone is feeding the meter. (In particular, Meetup, Inc. doesn't acknowledge SVLUG as a stakeholder in the meetup. As far as they're concerned, they own it, and, at any given time, some primary meetup organiser rents it from them.) As I've said, I have views about Meetup, Inc. and its for-profit online service, but they're not relevant here. What _is_ relevant is that I've been concerned about making sure what happened in 2013 doesn't happen again. As long as Kevin was (generously) providing SVLUG's meeting venue and arranging speakers at Cavium in San Jose, I wasn't very worried about the meetup going frozen again. In the latter half of 2018 when he left Cavium and went to San Francisco, and ceased arranging SVLUG meeting space and speakers, however, my concern returned. 2. Wishful thinking notwithstanding, Silicon Valley and San Francisco are different places with almost zero group-membership overlap. In 1992, just as I was first using Linux, I had recently moved from the mid-Peninsula back to San Francisco to help a friend build and operate The CoffeeNet in South of Market, the then-famous Linux-based Internet cafe, and lived in an apartment upstairs. For eight years (until I moved to Menlo Park in 2000), I was almost unique as a member of the Linux communities of both San Francisco and Silicon Valley. For a while, I tried to organise carpools from The CoffeeNet to SVLUG meetings, and, to my mild annoyance and amusement, the only result was that a bunch of people showed up, sans car, glad to have a free ride in my car to the South Bay and back. My rule of thumb was (and remains) 'Most San Franciscans refuse to go south of Army Street' (what is now Cesar Chavez St.). And South Bay denizens tend to be almost as bad, _talking_ about driving or taking CalTrain to San Francisco, but not _doing_ it. So, when I belatedly realised a week or so ago that Kevin had, since January 2019, repurposed his 'SVLUG - Silicon Valley Linux User Group' meetup solely for technical talks at a business in San Francisco's Mission District, I thought 'Hmm, this could be a problem.' We in the South Bay might imagine San Francisco being an outpost of Silicon Valley, but, take my word for it as a longtime resident of the place that tellingly calls itself 'The City': San Franciscans tend towards an insular attitude the likes of which is seldom seen outside NYC. Even if SVLUG simply says 'Fine, whatever Kevin arranges in SF is hereby declared to be an SVLUG meeting', the fact is that SF just isn't Silicon Valley, has little contact with it, and that won't change unless, say, Elon Musk waves a magic wand and opens hyperloop-based 200 MPH trains between Santa Clara to SF with 50 cent fares. Therefore, _if_ the present trend of only SF meetup events were to persist (as seemed likely until Sarah started talking seriously again about HackerDojo), my view is that Kevin should use a name reflecting the SF focus. If the facts on the ground change, great!