Google Zero is coming [was Re: Wikipedia at 25: A Wake-Up Call (essay)]
Luis Villa via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> Tue, 7 Jul 2026 17:41:02 -0700
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--===============8813922443899267230== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c0264a06560ec3b3" --000000000000c0264a06560ec3b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 4:26=E2=80=AFPM Erik Moeller via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote: > And, surprise surprise, those [Google AI] summaries do cost clicks. See > e.g. this > Pew study from a year ago: > > https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/07/22/google-users-are-less-= likely-to-click-on-links-when-an-ai-summary-appears-in-the-results/ > > Google and other search engines have been continuously optimizing > those summaries since, so I would expect the effect size to increase > over time. I personally start many of my searches on g.ai (their more > robust AI Mode) directly; a lot of what we used to call "search" is > IMO headed that way. I was talking with a friend in the news business recently, and they said news sites are actively preparing for =E2=80=9CGoogle Zero=E2=80=9D, the da= y when Google Search sends them zero (or effectively zero, for revenue purposes) traffic. That=E2=80=99s why every quality news site is pushing subscriptions and soc= ial network video hard. =E2=80=9CGoogle Zero=E2=80=9D is a very, very predictable future for us as = well.[1] A few months ago, before I had this useful and simple catchphrase, I urged some Foundation folks to orient their annual strategy process around the loss of 100% of search referral traffic, not 8% (as it was in the spring), or 20% (as it may be now), or whatever number it happens to be by the time we gather in Paris or Wikimania 2027. But I think now that was the wrong question. The right question is: what are *we* are going to do about Google Zero? This question is very explicitly not: *what is WMF going to do about Google Zero*. We can, should, must be more than WMF in this moment. If we=E2=80=99= re reduced to just the capabilities and capacity of a single US non-profit of a few hundred people, we=E2=80=99re going to lose. To win (or even just to survive) we must be a very broad, innovative, not-afraid-to-fail movement that happens to contain a US 501(c)3. The good news, I think, is that we=E2=80=99re uniquely well-positioned to d= o that: - Open knowledge, aside from Wikipedia, has never been healthier (with arxiv, GH, etc.); - our APIs and data allow many experiments, as do those of our partners like Archive; - if we grow our editors through different channels, our mission can still be achieved even if we are no longer a top-10 website; - etc. I hope to see a lot of you around Wikimania to talk about this. Luis [1] Not necessarily the only future; we=E2=80=99re currently on the path of newspapers (near-total collapse) but it isn=E2=80=99t impossible to imagine= curves like arxiv=E2=80=99s or reddit=E2=80=99s or github=E2=80=99s https://lu.is/2026/04/web-collaboration-five-graphs/ --000000000000c0264a06560ec3b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><div dir=3D"auto"><span>On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 4:26= =E2=80=AFPM Erik Moeller via Wikimedia-l <<a href=3D"mailto:wikimedia-l@= lists.wikimedia.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&= gt; wrote:</span></div></div><div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quo= te"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor= der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" dir=3D"auto"> And, surprise surprise, those [Google AI] summaries do cost clicks. See e.g= . this<br> Pew study from a year ago:<br> <a href=3D"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/07/22/google-users-= are-less-likely-to-click-on-links-when-an-ai-summary-appears-in-the-results= /" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r= eads/2025/07/22/google-users-are-less-likely-to-click-on-links-when-an-ai-s= ummary-appears-in-the-results/</a><br> <br> Google and other search engines have been continuously optimizing<br> those summaries since, so I would expect the effect size to increase<br> over time. I personally start many of my searches on <a href=3D"http://g.ai= " rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">g.ai</a> (their more<br> robust AI Mode) directly; a lot of what we used to call "search" = is<br> IMO headed that way.</blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au= to">I was talking with a friend in the news business recently, and they sai= d news sites are actively preparing for =E2=80=9CGoogle Zero=E2=80=9D, the = day when Google Search sends them zero (or effectively zero, for revenue pu= rposes) traffic. That=E2=80=99s why every quality news site is pushing subs= criptions and social network video hard.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><= div dir=3D"auto">=E2=80=9CGoogle Zero=E2=80=9D is a very, very predictable = future for us as well.[1]</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto= ">A few months ago, before I had this useful and simple catchphrase, I urge= d some Foundation folks to orient their annual strategy process around the = loss of 100% of search referral traffic, not 8% (as it was in the spring), = or 20% (as it may be now), or whatever number it happens to be by the time = we gather in Paris or Wikimania 2027.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div= dir=3D"auto">But I think now that was the wrong question. The right questi= on is:=C2=A0what are *we* are going to do about Google Zero?=C2=A0</div><di= v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This question is very explicitly= not: *what is WMF going to do about Google Zero*. We can, should, must be = more than WMF in this moment. If we=E2=80=99re reduced to just the capabili= ties and capacity of a single US non-profit of a few hundred people, we=E2= =80=99re going to lose.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"= auto">To win (or even just to survive) we must=C2=A0be a very broad, innova= tive, not-afraid-to-fail movement that happens=C2=A0to contain a US 501(c)3= .</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The good news, I think= , is that we=E2=80=99re uniquely well-positioned to do that:=C2=A0</div><di= v dir=3D"auto">- Open knowledge, aside from Wikipedia, has never been healt= hier (with arxiv, GH, etc.);</div><div dir=3D"auto">- our APIs and data all= ow many experiments, as do those of our partners like Archive;</div><div di= r=3D"auto">- if we grow our editors through different channels, our mission= can still be achieved even if we are no longer a top-10 website;</div><div= dir=3D"auto">- etc.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I h= ope to see a lot of you around Wikimania to talk about this.=C2=A0</div><di= v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Luis</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>= </div><div dir=3D"auto">[1] Not necessarily the only future; we=E2=80=99re = currently on the path of newspapers (near-total collapse) but it isn=E2=80= =99t impossible to imagine curves like arxiv=E2=80=99s or reddit=E2=80=99s= =C2=A0or github=E2=80=99s<div style=3D"font-size:inherit"><a href=3D"https:= //lu.is/2026/04/web-collaboration-five-graphs/" style=3D"font-size:inherit"= target=3D"_blank">https://lu.is/2026/04/web-collaboration-five-graphs/</a>= </div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad= ding-left:1ex" dir=3D"auto"></blockquote></div></div> </div> </div> --000000000000c0264a06560ec3b3-- --===============8813922443899267230== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/U7L5KGDTMWVILP3MKCVTWDK23ODIGVL6/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org --===============8813922443899267230==--