Re: Wiki, plus video [was Wikipedia at 25: A Wake-Up Call (essay)]

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WikiPlus appears to remove the current videos within Wikipedia articles.
For example Polio has a video in the lead

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio

Made using VideoWiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VideoWiki/Polio

I do not see that video here

https://wikiplus.video/topic/Polio/

Agree, we should integrate more videos into Wikipedia. We for example could
directly add TED talks and Khan academy videos if we choose to. Great to
see this sort of experimentation.

James

On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 11:59=E2=80=AFPM Sage Ross via Wikimedia-l <
[email protected]> wrote:

> TL;DR: https://wikiplus.video
>
> I see the recent developments in AI and the death of traditional
> Google-style search as peripheral to our real problem: Wikipedia doesn't
> have anything to offer to an audience that mainly turns to video for
> knowledge instead of text (which is most of Gen Z and Gen Alpha).
>
> What Wikipedia offers an audience of text nerds (complimentary) is not =
=E2=80=94
> primarily =E2=80=94 just more text. We have access to more published text=
 than we
> know what to do with. Wikipedia offers a way to curate that text. For
> someone who has read enough about a topic to know the worthwhile texts fr=
om
> the trash, Wikipedia gives them a way to share they know about those text=
s.
> (The fact that creating Wikipedia is mostly about creating new text for
> readers is incidental, not essential, to this curation.)
>
> I think this concept of communal curation is what's missing from the
> video-centric information ecosystem. Just as most Wikipedia editors don't
> want to write the sorts of text they read and cite, the nerds who immerse
> themselves in learning from video don't necessarily want to create video.
> But they do =E2=80=94 I believe =E2=80=94 want to help curate knowledge a=
nd contribute what
> they know about which (video) sources are worthwhile, and fold that into
> the knowledge commons to help others.
>
> I've created a prototype for "Wiki+" =E2=80=94 all the content of Wikiped=
ia, plus
> video (from YouTube, etc) about the topic. As a reader, you get everythin=
g
> Wikipedia has to tell you about some topic, alongside the best of what
> video creators have to say about it. As a curator, you can find the best
> videos to complement the Wikipedia text, and add curation notes to provid=
e
> context and flag errors.
>
> https://wikiplus.video
>
> -Sage
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 9:40=E2=80=AFAM James Heilman via Wikimedia-l <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We have had falling readership for years now (when it comes to health
>> content at least). And yes lately this has picked up. People are turning=
 to
>> AI for answers, Google "search engine" now provides AI answers at the to=
p
>> and then the rest is mostly adverts and their partner Mayo Clinic.
>>
>> We missed video, when Youtube exploded in popularity as a learning
>> platform. We had a collaboration with Ozmosis for video content but the
>> community sent them away. We are only just now developing infrastructure=
 to
>> determine if people watch the small number of videos we currently have
>> (with some saying this is not needed as they believe the answer is few).
>>
>> Yes we are turning into a niche product. The internet has turned into a
>> walled garden, with folks staying within their apps like Twitter, Facebo=
ok,
>> Youtube, Instagram, etc.
>>
>> But what should we do? Some of us are working on introducing limited
>> video but growth is slow. We fund abstract Wikipedia to the toon of
>> millions. Revolutionary projects are hard to invent. This is not somethi=
ng
>> the WMF can solve. But us being more of a niche project is also not the =
end
>> of the world.
>>
>> James
>>
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James Heilman
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<div dir=3D"ltr">WikiPlus appears to remove=C2=A0the current videos within =
Wikipedia articles. For example Polio has a video in the lead<div><br></div=
><div><a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio">https://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/Polio</a></div><div><br></div><div>Made using VideoWiki</div><div>=
<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VideoWiki=
/Polio">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VideoWiki/Polio</a></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>I do not see that video here</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"https://wikiplus.video/topic/Polio/">https://wikiplus.video/topic/P=
olio/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Agree, we should integrate=C2=A0more vid=
eos into Wikipedia. We for example could directly add TED talks and Khan ac=
ademy videos if we choose to. Great to see this sort of experimentation.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>James</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail=
_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 10, 202=
6 at 11:59=E2=80=AFPM Sage Ross via Wikimedia-l &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikim=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia=
,serif">TL;DR:=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color:transparent"><a href=3D=
"https://wikiplus.video" target=3D"_blank">https://wikiplus.video</a></span=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">I s=
ee the recent developments in AI and the death of traditional Google-style =
search as peripheral to our real problem: Wikipedia doesn&#39;t have anythi=
ng to offer to an audience that mainly turns to video for knowledge instead=
 of text (which is most of Gen Z and Gen Alpha).<br><br>What Wikipedia offe=
rs an audience of text nerds (complimentary) is not =E2=80=94 primarily =E2=
=80=94 just more text. We have access to more published text than we know w=
hat to do with. Wikipedia offers a way to curate that text. For someone who=
 has read enough about a topic to know the worthwhile texts from the trash,=
 Wikipedia gives them a way to share they know about those texts. (The fact=
 that creating Wikipedia is mostly about creating new text for readers is i=
ncidental, not essential, to this curation.)<br><br>I think this concept of=
 communal curation is what&#39;s missing from the video-centric information=
 ecosystem. Just as most Wikipedia editors don&#39;t want to write the sort=
s of text they read and cite, the nerds who immerse themselves in learning =
from video don&#39;t necessarily want to create video. But they do =E2=80=
=94 I believe =E2=80=94 want to help curate knowledge and contribute what t=
hey know about which (video) sources are worthwhile, and fold that into the=
 knowledge commons to help others.<br><br>I&#39;ve created a prototype for =
&quot;Wiki+&quot; =E2=80=94 all the content of Wikipedia, plus video (from =
YouTube, etc) about the topic. As a reader, you get everything Wikipedia ha=
s to tell you about some topic, alongside the best of what video creators h=
ave to say about it. As a curator, you can find the best videos to compleme=
nt the Wikipedia text, and add curation notes to provide context and flag e=
rrors.<br><br><a href=3D"https://wikiplus.video" target=3D"_blank">https://=
wikiplus.video</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:g=
eorgia,serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:g=
eorgia,serif">-Sage</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 9:40=E2=80=AFAM James Heil=
man via Wikimedia-l &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">We have h=
ad falling readership for years now (when it comes to health content at lea=
st). And yes lately this has picked up. People are turning to AI for answer=
s, Google &quot;search engine&quot; now provides AI answers at the top and =
then the rest is mostly adverts and their partner Mayo Clinic.<div><br></di=
v><div>We missed video, when Youtube exploded in popularity as a learning p=
latform. We had a collaboration with Ozmosis for video content but the comm=
unity sent them away. We are only just now developing infrastructure to det=
ermine if people watch the small number of videos we currently have (with s=
ome saying this is not needed as they believe the answer is few).</div><div=
><br></div><div>Yes we are turning into a niche product. The internet has t=
urned into a walled garden, with folks staying within their apps like Twitt=
er, Facebook, Youtube, Instagram, etc.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>But w=
hat should we do? Some of us are working on introducing limited video but g=
rowth is slow. We fund abstract Wikipedia to the toon of millions. Revoluti=
onary projects are hard to invent. This is not something the WMF can solve.=
 But us being more of a niche project is also not the end of the world.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>James</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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