Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound
np <[email protected]> Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:04:59 +0200
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Hi, afaik there is a hudge rework of the sound subsystem in progress, spons=
ored by the FreeBSD foundation=2E But this should have been merged in one c=
ommit and not in small steps, because changes seem deep=2E I personally fix=
the MIDI part so that it is working on FreeBSD 13=2Ex, but I don't know wh=
at changes will be merged/have been merged because the rework is now massiv=
e=2E
At worst, waiting until this job is achieved, you can take the code under =
sys/sound from FreeBSD 13=2Ex and use it under 15=2E0, with minor tweaks in=
the source tree=2E
Regards,
Le 20 juillet 2026 02:04:25 GMT+02:00, vermaden <vermaden@interia=2Epl> a =
=C3=A9crit :
>Hi=2E
>
>For a start lets define some TERMS=2E I use UPPERCASE not to shout - but =
to underline a part of the sentence that is needed to be underlined - this =
is plain email - I do not have Bold/Underscore/Italic options - keep that i=
n mind - now - to the core of the issue =2E=2E=2E
>
>I always considered FreeBSD OSS audio/sound subsystem superior to all ALS=
A/PulseAudio/PipeWire and other dramas from the Linux world =2E=2E=2E but n=
ot anymore=2E
>
>Somewhere between 14=2E3-RELEASE and 14=2E4-RELEASE things begin to get b=
roken - I thought that upgrade to latest and greatest 15=2E1-RELEASE would =
solve my issues - as there were LOTS of sound/audio related things=2E
>
>I will not even start about PITA syntax of mixer(1) which went into this:
>
>% mixer -f ${DEV} vol=2Evolume=3D+0=2E05
>
>=2E=2E=2E from MUCH MORE friendly syntax=2E
>
>But these random 'boozing' sounds are just unacceptable =2E=2E=2E and I c=
an not even tell where they came from =2E=2E=2E is it OSS problem? Is is Pu=
lseAudio problem? Something in between? Because there is NOTHING in the log=
s for audio=2E
>
>Its also possible to get that file from my personal 'mediafire=2Ecom' acc=
ount here:
>- https://mediafire=2Ecom/file/jw3cpk8g77rvks2/freebsd-tragic-audio-sound=
=2Emp4/file
>
>=2E=2E=2E and its not some fancy laptop from yesterday =2E=2E=2E its a Th=
inkPad T480 from 2018 for fuck sake - hardware like that used to run smooth=
as Carlos Sainz 'smooth operator' in Singapore GP =2E=2E=2E but not anymor=
e=2E
>
>I do not even know what to add here =2E=2E=2E its a message send our of d=
espair =2E=2E=2E as newer releases only made these things worse =2E=2E=2E I=
have been repeating this over and over again - but its again probably the =
issue that 'too less' FreeBSD developers use FreeBSD as their daily driver/=
desktop/laptop system=2E
>
>Sorry to disappoint=2E
>
>Regards,
>vermaden
>
>
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<html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">Hi, afaik there is a hudge rewor=
k of the sound subsystem in progress, sponsored by the FreeBSD foundation=
=2E But this should have been merged in one commit and not in small steps, =
because changes seem deep=2E I personally fix the MIDI part so that it is w=
orking on FreeBSD 13=2Ex, but I don't know what changes will be merged/have=
been merged because the rework is now massive=2E<br><br>At worst, waiting =
until this job is achieved, you can take the code under sys/sound from Free=
BSD 13=2Ex and use it under 15=2E0, with minor tweaks in the source tree=2E=
<br><br>Regards,</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">=
Le 20 juillet 2026 02:04:25 GMT+02:00, vermaden <vermaden@interia=2Epl&g=
t; a =C3=A9crit :</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0=
pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left=
: 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"com-fsck-k9__plain-text-message-pre"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi=2E=
<br><br>For a start lets define some TERMS=2E I use UPPERCASE not to shout =
- but to underline a part of the sentence that is needed to be underlined -=
this is plain email - I do not have Bold/Underscore/Italic options - keep =
that in mind - now - to the core of the issue =2E=2E=2E<br><br>I always con=
sidered FreeBSD OSS audio/sound subsystem superior to all ALSA/PulseAudio/P=
ipeWire and other dramas from the Linux world =2E=2E=2E but not anymore=2E<=
br><br>Somewhere between 14=2E3-RELEASE and 14=2E4-RELEASE things begin to =
get broken - I thought that upgrade to latest and greatest 15=2E1-RELEASE w=
ould solve my issues - as there were LOTS of sound/audio related things=2E<=
br><br>I will not even start about PITA syntax of mixer(1) which went into =
this:<br><br>% mixer -f ${DEV} vol=2Evolume=3D+0=2E05<br><br>=2E=2E=2E from=
MUCH MORE friendly syntax=2E<br><br>But these random 'boozing' sounds are =
just unacceptable =2E=2E=2E and I can not even tell where they came from =
=2E=2E=2E is it OSS problem? Is is PulseAudio problem? Something in between=
? Because there is NOTHING in the logs for audio=2E<br><br>Its also possibl=
e to get that file from my personal 'mediafire=2Ecom' account here:<br>- <a=
href=3D"https://mediafire=2Ecom/file/jw3cpk8g77rvks2/freebsd-tragic-audio-=
sound=2Emp4/file">https://mediafire=2Ecom/file/jw3cpk8g77rvks2/freebsd-trag=
ic-audio-sound=2Emp4/file</a><br><br>=2E=2E=2E and its not some fancy lapto=
p from yesterday =2E=2E=2E its a ThinkPad T480 from 2018 for fuck sake - ha=
rdware like that used to run smooth as Carlos Sainz 'smooth operator' in Si=
ngapore GP =2E=2E=2E but not anymore=2E<br><br>I do not even know what to a=
dd here =2E=2E=2E its a message send our of despair =2E=2E=2E as newer rele=
ases only made these things worse =2E=2E=2E I have been repeating this over=
and over again - but its again probably the issue that 'too less' FreeBSD =
developers use FreeBSD as their daily driver/desktop/laptop system=2E<br><b=
r>Sorry to disappoint=2E<br><br>Regards,<br>vermaden<br><br><br></div></pre=
></blockquote></div></body></html>
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