Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound
Mario Marietto <[email protected]> Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:16:38 +0200
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--0000000000001201d1065709e35f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Hi, afaik there is a huge rework of the sound subsystem in progress, sponsored >by the FreeBSD foundation. But this should have been merged in one commit and >not in small steps, because changes seem deep. I personally fix the MIDI part so >that it is working on FreeBSD 13.x, but I don't know what changes will be merged/>have been merged because the rework is now massive. Is that code valid also for ARM64 bit ? On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 2:06=E2=80=AFPM np <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, afaik there is a hudge rework of the sound subsystem in progress, > sponsored by the FreeBSD foundation. But this should have been merged in > one commit and not in small steps, because changes seem deep. I personall= y > fix the MIDI part so that it is working on FreeBSD 13.x, but I don't know > what changes will be merged/have been merged because the rework is now > massive. > > At worst, waiting until this job is achieved, you can take the code under > sys/sound from FreeBSD 13.x and use it under 15.0, with minor tweaks in t= he > source tree. > > Regards, > > > Le 20 juillet 2026 02:04:25 GMT+02:00, vermaden <[email protected]> a > =C3=A9crit : > >> Hi. >> >> For a start lets define some TERMS. I use UPPERCASE not to shout - but t= o underline a part of the sentence that is needed to be underlined - this i= s plain email - I do not have Bold/Underscore/Italic options - keep that in= mind - now - to the core of the issue ... >> >> I always considered FreeBSD OSS audio/sound subsystem superior to all AL= SA/PulseAudio/PipeWire and other dramas from the Linux world ... but not an= ymore. >> >> Somewhere between 14.3-RELEASE and 14.4-RELEASE things begin to get brok= en - I thought that upgrade to latest and greatest 15.1-RELEASE would solve= my issues - as there were LOTS of sound/audio related things. >> >> I will not even start about PITA syntax of mixer(1) which went into this= : >> >> % mixer -f ${DEV} vol.volume=3D+0.05 >> >> ... from MUCH MORE friendly syntax. >> >> But these random 'boozing' sounds are just unacceptable ... and I can no= t even tell where they came from ... is it OSS problem? Is is PulseAudio pr= oblem? Something in between? Because there is NOTHING in the logs for audio= . >> >> Its also possible to get that file from my personal 'mediafire.com' acco= unt here: >> - https://mediafire.com/file/jw3cpk8g77rvks2/freebsd-tragic-audio-sound.= mp4/file >> >> ... and its not some fancy laptop from yesterday ... its a ThinkPad T480= from 2018 for fuck sake - hardware like that used to run smooth as Carlos = Sainz 'smooth operator' in Singapore GP ... but not anymore. >> >> I do not even know what to add here ... its a message send our of despai= r ... as newer releases only made these things worse ... I have been repeat= ing this over and over again - but its again probably the issue that 'too l= ess' FreeBSD developers use FreeBSD as their daily driver/desktop/laptop sy= stem. >> >> Sorry to disappoint. >> >> Regards, >> vermaden >> >> >> --=20 Mario. --0000000000001201d1065709e35f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>>Hi, afaik there is a huge rework of the sound sub= system in progress,=20 sponsored >by the FreeBSD foundation. But this should have been merged i= n one commit and >not in small steps, because changes seem deep. I=20 personally fix the MIDI part so >that it is working on FreeBSD 13.x, but= I don't know what changes will be merged/>have been merged because th= e=20 rework is now massive.</div><div><br></div><div>Is that code valid also for= ARM64 bit ?</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container= "><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 2:06=E2=80= =AFPM np <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dev@nicolas-provost.= fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex= "><div><div dir=3D"auto">Hi, afaik there is a hudge rework of the sound sub= system in progress, sponsored by the FreeBSD foundation. But this should ha= ve been merged in one commit and not in small steps, because changes seem d= eep. I personally fix the MIDI part so that it is working on FreeBSD 13.x, = but I don't know what changes will be merged/have been merged because t= he rework is now massive.<br><br>At worst, waiting until this job is achiev= ed, you can take the code under sys/sound from FreeBSD 13.x and use it unde= r 15.0, with minor tweaks in the source tree.<br><br>Regards,</div><br><br>= <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">Le 20 juillet 2026 02:04:25 GM= T+02:00, vermaden <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla= nk">[email protected]</a>> a =C3=A9crit :</div><blockquote class=3D"gm= ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,= 204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <pre><div dir=3D"auto">Hi.<br><br>For a start lets define some TERMS. I use= UPPERCASE not to shout - but to underline a part of the sentence that is n= eeded to be underlined - this is plain email - I do not have Bold/Underscor= e/Italic options - keep that in mind - now - to the core of the issue ...<b= r><br>I always considered FreeBSD OSS audio/sound subsystem superior to all= ALSA/PulseAudio/PipeWire and other dramas from the Linux world ... but not= anymore.<br><br>Somewhere between 14.3-RELEASE and 14.4-RELEASE things beg= in to get broken - I thought that upgrade to latest and greatest 15.1-RELEA= SE would solve my issues - as there were LOTS of sound/audio related things= .<br><br>I will not even start about PITA syntax of mixer(1) which went int= o this:<br><br>% mixer -f ${DEV} vol.volume=3D+0.05<br><br>... from MUCH MO= RE friendly syntax.<br><br>But these random 'boozing' sounds are ju= st unacceptable ... and I can not even tell where they came from ... is it = OSS problem? Is is PulseAudio problem? Something in between? Because there = is NOTHING in the logs for audio.<br><br>Its also possible to get that file= from my personal '<a href=3D"http://mediafire.com" target=3D"_blank">m= ediafire.com</a>' account here:<br>- <a href=3D"https://mediafire.com/f= ile/jw3cpk8g77rvks2/freebsd-tragic-audio-sound.mp4/file" target=3D"_blank">= https://mediafire.com/file/jw3cpk8g77rvks2/freebsd-tragic-audio-sound.mp4/f= ile</a><br><br>... and its not some fancy laptop from yesterday ... its a T= hinkPad T480 from 2018 for fuck sake - hardware like that used to run smoot= h as Carlos Sainz 'smooth operator' in Singapore GP ... but not any= more.<br><br>I do not even know what to add here ... its a message send our= of despair ... as newer releases only made these things worse ... I have b= een repeating this over and over again - but its again probably the issue t= hat 'too less' FreeBSD developers use FreeBSD as their daily driver= /desktop/laptop system.<br><br>Sorry to disappoint.<br><br>Regards,<br>verm= aden<br><br><br></div></pre></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><di= v><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </s= pan><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.<br></div> --0000000000001201d1065709e35f--