Re: Misc. as part of usage testing

On 1/11/26 04:57, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Mark Millard to Anton Shepelev:
> 
>>> While posting via Gmane, you should only use the Newsgroups:
>>> header, as I do in this reply.
>>
>> Such messages never show up on the list for my
>> context/configuration, not even days later.
> 
> I see two messages that you have been able to sumbit via NNTP,
> without the help of your e-mail account.  The first one is:
> 
>    X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
>    Subject: Re: Misc. as part of usage testing
>    Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 09:49:28 -0800
>    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> and the second one is:
> 
>    X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
>    Subject: Re: Misc. as part of usage testing
>    Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:24:05 -0800
>    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> The are both archived:
> 
>    <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/2026-January/000344.txt>
>    <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/2026-January/000345.txt>
> 
> After that, all of your messages seem to be have been coming by
> way of SMTP, because they have no X-Injected-Via-Gmane: header.
> Do you remember how you posted those first two, or maybe they
> are stored in your outbox for you to consult?  This was a
> working setup.
> 
> 
> 


In the message sequence that I sent, of which those two are part, there
was a prior message that never showed up on the list: the first one of
the sequence. It was sent Date:Sun, 4 Jan 2026 21:15:58 -0800. Note how
all the messages in that sequence on the list have "Re:" in the subject.
The first message did not.


I have recently sent out 3 independent messages:

Subject: Test with only Newsgroup
Date:Sun, 11 Jan 2026 06:56:48 -0800
Not delivered after over 2 hrs

Subject: Test with Newgroup and To, To not being to the newsgroup
Date:Sun, 11 Jan 2026 06:58:27 -0800
To: was delivered almost immediately
Newsgroup: not delivered after over 2 hrs

Subject: Test with Newsgroup and To, both being to the list
Date:Sun, 11 Jan 2026 06:59:35 -0800
Both: was delivered almost immediately

All 3 show up in Sent. None show up in Outbox.


It does seem that logs may be the only way to see more about what is
happening for such.


I do have list exchanges helping folks where I would not want a 0.5hr
latency in the message going out: Other people some times read and help
as well. Delaying their reading would not be good.


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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com