Re: NetBSD Mascot Proposal

Michael Cheponis <[email protected]> Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:42:13 -0700
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One more thing: NetBSD was embedded in a smartphone (by Danger) before
android was a twinkle in Andy Rubin's eye.  NetBSD actually started the
'powerful OS in your pocket communicator' concept.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:33 PM Vincent DEFERT <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A polar bear mascot is a double-edged sword: close to us because it's a
> mammal, but also a wild carnivorous animal humans are better off carefully
> avoiding... :/
>
> I liked the idea of the robot much better.
> Several animation films for children have featured friendly robot
> characters, so with an appropriate graphical design, a robot mascot could
> be appealing to a very wide audience.
> It would reflect the fact that, among the 3 BSD, NetBSD is certainly the
> most embedded-friendly, which is IMO very important in terms of
> differentiation.
> Plus, if the "live" mascot was built using a RISC-V MCU board, it would be
> a 100% open source robot, from the processor to the software! :)
>
> On 17/04/2021 19:55, Jay Patel wrote:
>
> Another reference
>
> Polar bear with holding NetBSD flag
>
> https://www.canstockphoto.com/polar-bear-holding-flag-mascot-59043489.html
>
>
> On Sat, 27 Feb, 2021, 10:04 am Jay Patel, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Robot concept similar to this
>> https://en.goteo.org/project/eiro-open-source-robot-kit
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Feb, 2021, 12:35 pm Jay Patel, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I also had another concept that we can have robot mascot but as actual
>>> robot which only three boar members will keep and it will of course run
>>> using NetBSD and can be developed with OSS hardwares available in market
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Other plush toys of robot can be made available but we can have actual
>>> robot in foundation which will also be programmed :P
>>>
>>> For eg. Boston Dynamic has "spot"
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards ,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Feb, 2021, 1:47 am Michael Cheponis, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I rather liked the 'group' idea because they were all, you know,
>>>> "networked" together.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM Nikolay Kalev <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe there could be few mascots instead of one ?
>>>>> Old logo was a group of mascots with devices and computers around
>>>>> them, but also possible to have them independently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nikolay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Kamil Rytarowski <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This squirrel with a pumpkin is a cute idea and I support it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15.02.2021 09:49, Jay Patel wrote:
>>>>>> > Bartek@ okay i will try to get more poses and simplified.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kamil@ inspired by maya@'s squirrel pic one example if animal
>>>>>> mascot
>>>>>> > required
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg
>>>>>> > <https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> > Jay
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sun, 14 Feb, 2021, 7:59 pm Bartek Krawczyk,
>>>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     W dniu 12.02.2021 o 22:37, A Dog pisze:
>>>>>> >     > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 01:12:38AM PST, Kamil Rytarowski
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >     >> Can we avoid the appearance of a monster, devil or an alien?
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Or an insectoid.  There are people who are capable of finding
>>>>>> bugs
>>>>>> >     cute, but
>>>>>> >     > many others have a visceral repulsion to anything with an
>>>>>> exoskeleton.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > I'm just trying to compare these proposals to the existing OS
>>>>>> >     mascots that
>>>>>> >     > are out there:  Puffy (cute li'l pufferfish), Beastie (cute
>>>>>> li'l
>>>>>> >     "daemon"),
>>>>>> >     > Tux (cute[1] li'l penguin), whatever the Minix raccoon is
>>>>>> >     called... do I see
>>>>>> >     > a pattern here?
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > And then we have this thing that looks like a robot bug
>>>>>> devil.
>>>>>> >     Beastie may
>>>>>> >     > look like a devil too, but at least he's a *cute* devil...
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > [1] Until you notice his resemblance to Homer Simpson.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     I second that. I'm no artist myself however initial suggestions
>>>>>> by Jay
>>>>>> >     Patel are more in line with current trends and what people like
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> >     general.
>>>>>> >     In my opinion the logo should be cute, fun, not too serious.
>>>>>> Like
>>>>>> >     Golang's gopher perhaps?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     This suggestion:
>>>>>> >     https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l
>>>>>> >     <https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l>
>>>>>> >     shows a good example for me. NetBSD's colours, he's a runner
>>>>>> (reference
>>>>>> >     to "of course it runs NetBSD". It's too detailed, though - Jay,
>>>>>> can it
>>>>>> >     be simplified a bit? Try some other poses with open eyes?
>>>>>> >     It's in the right direction imho.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Regards
>>>>>> >     --
>>>>>> >     Bartek Krawczyk
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">One more thing: NetBSD was embedded in =
a smartphone (by Danger) before android was a twinkle in Andy Rubin&#39;s e=
ye.=C2=A0 NetBSD actually started the &#39;powerful OS in your pocket commu=
nicator&#39; concept.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:33 PM Vincent DEFERT &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
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  <div>
    <font face=3D"DejaVu Sans">Hi,<br>
      <br>
      A polar bear mascot is a double-edged sword: close to us because
      it&#39;s a mammal, but also a wild carnivorous animal humans are
      better off carefully avoiding... :/<br>
      <br>
      I liked the idea of the robot much better.<br>
      Several animation films for children have featured friendly robot
      characters, so with an appropriate graphical design, a robot
      mascot could be appealing to a very wide audience.<br>
    </font><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans"><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans">It would
        reflect the fact that, among the 3 BSD, NetBSD is certainly the
        most embedded-friendly, which is IMO very important in terms of
        differentiation.<br>
      </font>Plus, if the &quot;live&quot; mascot was built using a RISC-V =
MCU
      board, it would be a 100% open source robot, from the processor to
      the software! :)<br>
    </font><br>
    <div>On 17/04/2021 19:55, Jay Patel wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">
        <div>Another reference=C2=A0
          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir=3D"auto">Polar bear with holding NetBSD flag</div>
          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://www.canstockphoto.com/polar-=
bear-holding-flag-mascot-59043489.html" target=3D"_blank">https://www.canst=
ockphoto.com/polar-bear-holding-flag-mascot-59043489.html</a><br>
          </div>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 27 Feb, 2021,
              10:04 am Jay Patel, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jaypatel.ani@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir=3D"auto">
                <div>Robot concept similar to this=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://=
en.goteo.org/project/eiro-open-source-robot-kit" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://en.goteo.org/project/eiro-open-source-robot-kit</a></di=
v>
                <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                </div>
                <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                </div>
                <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                  <div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto">
                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 17 Feb,
                      2021, 12:35 pm Jay Patel, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jaypa=
[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">jaypatel.ani@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir=3D"auto">I also had another concept that we
                        can have robot mascot but as actual robot which
                        only three boar members will keep and it will of
                        course run using NetBSD and can be developed
                        with OSS hardwares available in market :)=C2=A0
                        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir=3D"auto">Other plush toys of robot can be
                          made available but we can have actual robot in
                          foundation which will also be programmed :P</div>
                        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir=3D"auto">For eg. Boston Dynamic has
                          &quot;spot&quot;</div>
                        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir=3D"auto">Thanks and Regards ,</div>
                        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 16
                          Feb, 2021, 1:47 am Michael Cheponis, &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir=3D"ltr">
                            <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                              rather liked the &#39;group&#39; idea because=
 they
                              were all, you know, &quot;networked&quot; tog=
ether.</div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon,
                              Feb 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM Nikolay Kalev
                              &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a=
>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">
                              <div dir=3D"auto">Hi all,</div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                              </div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto">Maybe there could be few
                                mascots instead of one ?</div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto">Old logo was a group of
                                mascots with devices and computers
                                around them, but also possible to have
                                them independently.</div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                              </div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto">Nikolay</div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                              </div>
                              <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                                <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                                  <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On
                                    Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Kamil
                                    Rytarowski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kamil@=
netbsd.org" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer
                                      noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kamil@n=
etbsd.org</a>&gt;
                                    wrote:<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">This
                                    squirrel with a pumpkin is a cute
                                    idea and I support it.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    On 15.02.2021 09:49, Jay Patel
                                    wrote:<br>
                                    &gt; Bartek@ okay i will try to get
                                    more poses and simplified.<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt; Kamil@ inspired by maya@&#39;s
                                    squirrel pic one example if animal
                                    mascot<br>
                                    &gt; required<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt; <a href=3D"https://app.box.com/s/m=
4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer
                                      noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg</a><br>
                                    &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://app.box.com=
/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer
                                      noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg</a>&gt;<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt; Thanks,<br>
                                    &gt; Jay<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt; On Sun, 14 Feb, 2021, 7:59 pm
                                    Bartek Krawczyk,<br>
                                    &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bbartlomiej.=
[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer
                                      noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bbartlo=
[email protected]</a>
                                    &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bbartlomie=
[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer
                                      noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bbartlo=
[email protected]</a>&gt;&gt;
                                    wrote:<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0W dniu 12.02.20=
21 o=C2=A022:37,
                                    A Dog pisze:<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; On Mon, Fe=
b 08, 2021
                                    at 01:12:38AM PST, Kamil Rytarowski
                                    wrote:<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; Can we=
 avoid the
                                    appearance of a monster, devil or an
                                    alien?<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt;<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Or an inse=
ctoid.=C2=A0
                                    There are people who are capable of
                                    finding bugs<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cute, but<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; many other=
s have a
                                    visceral repulsion to anything with
                                    an exoskeleton.<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; I&#39;m ju=
st trying to
                                    compare these proposals to the
                                    existing OS<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mascots that<br=
>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; are out th=
ere:=C2=A0 Puffy
                                    (cute li&#39;l pufferfish), Beastie
                                    (cute li&#39;l<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;daemon&qu=
ot;),<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Tux (cute[=
1] li&#39;l
                                    penguin), whatever the Minix raccoon
                                    is<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0called... do I =
see<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; a pattern =
here?<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; And then w=
e have this
                                    thing that looks like a robot bug
                                    devil.=C2=A0<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Beastie may<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; look like =
a devil too,
                                    but at least he&#39;s a *cute* devil...=
<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; [1] Until =
you notice
                                    his resemblance to Homer Simpson.<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I second that. =
I&#39;m no
                                    artist myself however initial
                                    suggestions by Jay<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Patel are more =
in line with
                                    current trends and what people like
                                    in<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0general.<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0In my opinion t=
he logo
                                    should be cute, fun, not too
                                    serious. Like<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Golang&#39;s go=
pher perhaps?<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This suggestion=
:<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http=
s://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l" rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer
                                      noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l</a><br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"=
https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l" rel=3D"noreferrer n=
oreferrer
                                      noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l</a>&gt;<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0shows a good ex=
ample for
                                    me. NetBSD&#39;s colours, he&#39;s a ru=
nner
                                    (reference<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to &quot;of cou=
rse it runs
                                    NetBSD&quot;. It&#39;s too detailed, th=
ough -
                                    Jay, can it<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be simplified a=
 bit? Try
                                    some other poses with open eyes?<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It&#39;s in the=
 right direction
                                    imho.<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards<br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- <br>
                                    &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bartek Krawczyk=
<br>
                                    &gt; <br>
                                    <br>
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