Re: NetBSD Mascot Proposal

Jay Patel <[email protected]> Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:22:40 +0530
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This is something similar
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nybble-world-s-cutest-open-source-robotic-cat#/

We can have mascot like this

On Thu, 6 May, 2021, 1:06 pm Vincent DEFERT, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Good idea! :)
>
> A robot project provides opportunities for many exciting developments:
>
> - human-machine interaction (e.g. saying Hello! to known people, getting
> to know new people, proposing to help a visitor)
> - autonomous navigation (e.g. learning obstacle types, learning the
> building's map, opening and closing doors, climbing stairs / using elevator)
> - personality and purpose (i.e. everything pertaining to relationships
> within a group)
> - many technical details (e.g. RF communications, edge computing, energy
> efficiency/frugality)
>
> This means the mascot would live many adventures in the long term, which
> would provide an original way of fostering the relationships with the
> NetBSD community - and probably well beyond!
> A blog (or maybe UnitedBSD) should be used from the start to communicate
> about the design and construction of the mascot robot  and, once up and
> running, about subsequent projects.
> The community should of course be involved whenever possible, e.g. through
> brainstorms, competitions, sub-projects, etc.
> Communication would thus give the mascot a life on its own even before it
> is powered on. :)
> I guess academia could also be interested in using the mascot as a basis
> for AI research projects.
> Furthermore, in the long run, the mascot could have cybernetic friends or
> siblings... :)
>
> I have mainly full-stack development + embedded skills, so I'd like to
> team with someone into design (I'm really terrible at visual arts) and
> someone else into AI.
> This would not only help reliably cover all critical aspects of the
> project, but would also help sustain motivation over time, a key success
> factor to spare-time projects.
>
> On 05/05/2021 14:01, Jay Patel wrote:
>
> Vincent@ maybe you can create one for Community with community funded.
>
> Maybe foundation can create Robotics competition for Mascot :)
>
> On Sun, 2 May, 2021, 9:25 am Jay Patel, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Vincent@ maybe take parts from https://www.generationrobots.com/en/ and
>> assemble NetBSD mascot be ready to be programmed ? :)
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Feb, 2021, 12:35 pm Jay Patel, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I also had another concept that we can have robot mascot but as actual
>>> robot which only three boar members will keep and it will of course run
>>> using NetBSD and can be developed with OSS hardwares available in market
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Other plush toys of robot can be made available but we can have actual
>>> robot in foundation which will also be programmed :P
>>>
>>> For eg. Boston Dynamic has "spot"
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards ,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Feb, 2021, 1:47 am Michael Cheponis, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I rather liked the 'group' idea because they were all, you know,
>>>> "networked" together.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM Nikolay Kalev <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe there could be few mascots instead of one ?
>>>>> Old logo was a group of mascots with devices and computers around
>>>>> them, but also possible to have them independently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nikolay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Kamil Rytarowski <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This squirrel with a pumpkin is a cute idea and I support it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15.02.2021 09:49, Jay Patel wrote:
>>>>>> > Bartek@ okay i will try to get more poses and simplified.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kamil@ inspired by maya@'s squirrel pic one example if animal
>>>>>> mascot
>>>>>> > required
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg
>>>>>> > <https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> > Jay
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sun, 14 Feb, 2021, 7:59 pm Bartek Krawczyk,
>>>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     W dniu 12.02.2021 o 22:37, A Dog pisze:
>>>>>> >     > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 01:12:38AM PST, Kamil Rytarowski
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >     >> Can we avoid the appearance of a monster, devil or an alien?
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Or an insectoid.  There are people who are capable of finding
>>>>>> bugs
>>>>>> >     cute, but
>>>>>> >     > many others have a visceral repulsion to anything with an
>>>>>> exoskeleton.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > I'm just trying to compare these proposals to the existing OS
>>>>>> >     mascots that
>>>>>> >     > are out there:  Puffy (cute li'l pufferfish), Beastie (cute
>>>>>> li'l
>>>>>> >     "daemon"),
>>>>>> >     > Tux (cute[1] li'l penguin), whatever the Minix raccoon is
>>>>>> >     called... do I see
>>>>>> >     > a pattern here?
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > And then we have this thing that looks like a robot bug
>>>>>> devil.
>>>>>> >     Beastie may
>>>>>> >     > look like a devil too, but at least he's a *cute* devil...
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > [1] Until you notice his resemblance to Homer Simpson.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     I second that. I'm no artist myself however initial suggestions
>>>>>> by Jay
>>>>>> >     Patel are more in line with current trends and what people like
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> >     general.
>>>>>> >     In my opinion the logo should be cute, fun, not too serious.
>>>>>> Like
>>>>>> >     Golang's gopher perhaps?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     This suggestion:
>>>>>> >     https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l
>>>>>> >     <https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l>
>>>>>> >     shows a good example for me. NetBSD's colours, he's a runner
>>>>>> (reference
>>>>>> >     to "of course it runs NetBSD". It's too detailed, though - Jay,
>>>>>> can it
>>>>>> >     be simplified a bit? Try some other poses with open eyes?
>>>>>> >     It's in the right direction imho.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Regards
>>>>>> >     --
>>>>>> >     Bartek Krawczyk
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>This is something similar <a href=3D"https://www.ind=
iegogo.com/projects/nybble-world-s-cutest-open-source-robotic-cat#/">https:=
//www.indiegogo.com/projects/nybble-world-s-cutest-open-source-robotic-cat#=
/</a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">We can have mascot=
 like this=C2=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 6 May, 2021, 1:06 pm Vincent DEFERT, &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    <font face=3D"DejaVu Sans">Good idea! :)<br>
      <br>
      A robot project provides opportunities for many exciting
      developments:<br>
      <br>
      - human-machine interaction (e.g. </font><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans"><=
font face=3D"DejaVu Sans">saying Hello! to known people, </font>getting
      to know new people, proposing to help a visitor)<br>
      - autonomous navigation (e.g. learning obstacle types, learning
      the building&#39;s map, opening and closing doors, climbing stairs /
      using elevator)<br>
      - personality and purpose (i.e. everything pertaining to
      relationships within a group)<br>
      - many technical details (e.g. RF communications, edge computing,
      energy efficiency/frugality)<br>
    </font><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans"><br>
      This means the mascot would live many adventures in the long term,
      which would provide an original way of fostering the relationships
      with the NetBSD community - and probably well beyond!<br>
      A blog (or maybe UnitedBSD) should be used from the start to
      communicate about the design and construction of the mascot robot=C2=
=A0
      and, once up and running, about subsequent projects.<br>
      The community should of course be involved whenever possible, e.g.
      through brainstorms, competitions, sub-projects, etc.<br>
      Communication would thus give the mascot a life on its own even
      before it is powered on. :)<br>
      I guess academia could also be interested in using the mascot as a
      basis for </font><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans"><font face=3D"DejaVu
        Sans">AI research projects</font>.<br>
      Furthermore, in the long run, the mascot could have cybernetic
      friends or siblings... :)<br>
    </font><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans"><br>
      I have mainly full-stack development + </font><font face=3D"DejaVu
      Sans"><font face=3D"DejaVu Sans">embedded</font> skills, so I&#39;d l=
ike
      to team with someone into design (I&#39;m really terrible at visual
      arts) and someone else into AI.<br>
      This would not only help reliably cover all critical aspects of
      the project, but would also help sustain motivation over time, a
      key success factor to spare-time projects.<br>
      <br>
    </font>
    <div>On 05/05/2021 14:01, Jay Patel wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div dir=3D"auto">Vincent@ maybe you can create one for Community
        with community funded.=C2=A0
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">Maybe foundation can create Robotics competition
          for Mascot :)=C2=A0</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, 2 May, 2021, 9:25 am
          Jay Patel, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"auto">
            <div>Vincent@ maybe take parts from=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www=
.generationrobots.com/en/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
https://www.generationrobots.com/en/</a>
              and assemble NetBSD mascot be ready to be programmed ? :)<br>
              <br>
              <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 17 Feb, 2021,
                  12:35 pm Jay Patel, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jaypatel.ani@gm=
ail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">jaypatel.ani@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <div dir=3D"auto">I also had another concept that we can
                    have robot mascot but as actual robot which only
                    three boar members will keep and it will of course
                    run using NetBSD and can be developed with OSS
                    hardwares available in market :)=C2=A0
                    <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir=3D"auto">Other plush toys of robot can be
                      made available but we can have actual robot in
                      foundation which will also be programmed :P</div>
                    <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir=3D"auto">For eg. Boston Dynamic has &quot;spot=
&quot;</div>
                    <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir=3D"auto">Thanks and Regards ,</div>
                    <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 16 Feb,
                      2021, 1:47 am Michael Cheponis, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                          rather liked the &#39;group&#39; idea because the=
y
                          were all, you know, &quot;networked&quot; togethe=
r.</div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb
                          15, 2021 at 12:11 PM Nikolay Kalev &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir=3D"auto">Hi all,</div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto">Maybe there could be few
                            mascots instead of one ?</div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto">Old logo was a group of
                            mascots with devices and computers around
                            them, but also possible to have them
                            independently.</div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto">Nikolay</div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                            <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                              <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon,
                                15 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Kamil Rytarowski
                                &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kamil@ne=
tbsd.org</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">This
                                squirrel with a pumpkin is a cute idea
                                and I support it.<br>
                                <br>
                                On 15.02.2021 09:49, Jay Patel wrote:<br>
                                &gt; Bartek@ okay i will try to get more
                                poses and simplified.<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt; Kamil@ inspired by maya@&#39;s squirre=
l
                                pic one example if animal mascot<br>
                                &gt; required<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt; <a href=3D"https://app.box.com/s/m4dhp=
gihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
                                  noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg</a><br>
                                &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://app.box.com/s/m=
4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
                                  noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg</a>&gt;<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt; Thanks,<br>
                                &gt; Jay<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt; On Sun, 14 Feb, 2021, 7:59 pm
                                Bartek Krawczyk,<br>
                                &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bbartlomiej.mail=
@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">[email protected]</a>
                                &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bbartlomiej.ma=
[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;&gt;
                                wrote:<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0W dniu 12.02.2021 o=
=C2=A022:37, A
                                Dog pisze:<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; On Mon, Feb 08=
, 2021 at
                                01:12:38AM PST, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; Can we avo=
id the
                                appearance of a monster, devil or an
                                alien?<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Or an insectoi=
d.=C2=A0 There
                                are people who are capable of finding
                                bugs<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cute, but<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; many others ha=
ve a
                                visceral repulsion to anything with an
                                exoskeleton.<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; I&#39;m just t=
rying to compare
                                these proposals to the existing OS<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mascots that<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; are out there:=
=C2=A0 Puffy
                                (cute li&#39;l pufferfish), Beastie (cute
                                li&#39;l<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;daemon&quot;)=
,<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Tux (cute[1] l=
i&#39;l
                                penguin), whatever the Minix raccoon is<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0called... do I see<=
br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; a pattern here=
?<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; And then we ha=
ve this
                                thing that looks like a robot bug
                                devil.=C2=A0<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Beastie may<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; look like a de=
vil too, but
                                at least he&#39;s a *cute* devil...<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; [1] Until you =
notice his
                                resemblance to Homer Simpson.<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I second that. I&#3=
9;m no artist
                                myself however initial suggestions by
                                Jay<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Patel are more in l=
ine with
                                current trends and what people like in<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0general.<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0In my opinion the l=
ogo should
                                be cute, fun, not too serious. Like<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Golang&#39;s gopher=
 perhaps?<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This suggestion:<br=
>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://=
app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r noreferrer
                                  noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l</a><br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"http=
s://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l" rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer noreferrer
                                  noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l</a>&gt;<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0shows a good exampl=
e for me.
                                NetBSD&#39;s colours, he&#39;s a runner
                                (reference<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to &quot;of course =
it runs NetBSD&quot;.
                                It&#39;s too detailed, though - Jay, can it=
<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be simplified a bit=
? Try some
                                other poses with open eyes?<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It&#39;s in the rig=
ht direction
                                imho.<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards<br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- <br>
                                &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bartek Krawczyk<br>
                                &gt; <br>
                                <br>
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