Re: NetBSD Mascot Proposal

Vincent DEFERT <[email protected]> Fri, 9 Sep 2022 11:26:43 +0000
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Hi Jay!

Nice find! :)
Cats have such a huge sympathy capital, and share common characteristics 
with daemons. ;)
Plus this one is really simple hardware-wise, so it shouldn't take long 
to see it making its first steps.
What do others think?

Kind regards

Vincent

On 09/09/2022 12:52, Jay Patel wrote:
> This is something similar 
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nybble-world-s-cutest-open-source-robotic-cat#/
>
> We can have mascot like this
>
> On Thu, 6 May, 2021, 1:06 pm Vincent DEFERT, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Good idea! :)
>
>     A robot project provides opportunities for many exciting developments:
>
>     - human-machine interaction (e.g. saying Hello! to known people,
>     getting to know new people, proposing to help a visitor)
>     - autonomous navigation (e.g. learning obstacle types, learning
>     the building's map, opening and closing doors, climbing stairs /
>     using elevator)
>     - personality and purpose (i.e. everything pertaining to
>     relationships within a group)
>     - many technical details (e.g. RF communications, edge computing,
>     energy efficiency/frugality)
>
>     This means the mascot would live many adventures in the long term,
>     which would provide an original way of fostering the relationships
>     with the NetBSD community - and probably well beyond!
>     A blog (or maybe UnitedBSD) should be used from the start to
>     communicate about the design and construction of the mascot robot 
>     and, once up and running, about subsequent projects.
>     The community should of course be involved whenever possible, e.g.
>     through brainstorms, competitions, sub-projects, etc.
>     Communication would thus give the mascot a life on its own even
>     before it is powered on. :)
>     I guess academia could also be interested in using the mascot as a
>     basis for AI research projects.
>     Furthermore, in the long run, the mascot could have cybernetic
>     friends or siblings... :)
>
>     I have mainly full-stack development + embedded skills, so I'd
>     like to team with someone into design (I'm really terrible at
>     visual arts) and someone else into AI.
>     This would not only help reliably cover all critical aspects of
>     the project, but would also help sustain motivation over time, a
>     key success factor to spare-time projects.
>
>     On 05/05/2021 14:01, Jay Patel wrote:
>>     Vincent@ maybe you can create one for Community with community
>>     funded.
>>
>>     Maybe foundation can create Robotics competition for Mascot :)
>>
>>     On Sun, 2 May, 2021, 9:25 am Jay Patel, <[email protected]>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         Vincent@ maybe take parts from
>>         https://www.generationrobots.com/en/
>>         <https://www..generationrobots.com/en/> and assemble NetBSD
>>         mascot be ready to be programmed ? :)
>>
>>         On Wed, 17 Feb, 2021, 12:35 pm Jay Patel,
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>             I also had another concept that we can have robot mascot
>>             but as actual robot which only three boar members will
>>             keep and it will of course run using NetBSD and can be
>>             developed with OSS hardwares available in market :)
>>
>>             Other plush toys of robot can be made available but we
>>             can have actual robot in foundation which will also be
>>             programmed :P
>>
>>             For eg. Boston Dynamic has "spot"
>>
>>             Thanks and Regards ,
>>
>>
>>             On Tue, 16 Feb, 2021, 1:47 am Michael Cheponis,
>>             <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>                 I rather liked the 'group' idea because they were
>>                 all, you know, "networked" together.
>>
>>                 On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM Nikolay Kalev
>>                 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>                     Hi all,
>>
>>                     Maybe there could be few mascots instead of one ?
>>                     Old logo was a group of mascots with devices and
>>                     computers around them, but also possible to have
>>                     them independently.
>>
>>                     Regards,
>>                     Nikolay
>>
>>
>>
>>                     On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Kamil Rytarowski
>>                     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>                         This squirrel with a pumpkin is a cute idea
>>                         and I support it.
>>
>>                         On 15.02.2021 09:49, Jay Patel wrote:
>>                         > Bartek@ okay i will try to get more poses
>>                         and simplified.
>>                         >
>>                         > Kamil@ inspired by maya@'s squirrel pic one
>>                         example if animal mascot
>>                         > required
>>                         >
>>                         >
>>                         https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg
>>                         >
>>                         <https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg>
>>                         >
>>                         > Thanks,
>>                         > Jay
>>                         >
>>                         > On Sun, 14 Feb, 2021, 7:59 pm Bartek Krawczyk,
>>                         > <[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>                         >
>>                         >     W dniu 12.02.2021 o 22:37, A Dog pisze:
>>                         >     > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 01:12:38AM
>>                         PST, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
>>                         >     >> Can we avoid the appearance of a
>>                         monster, devil or an alien?
>>                         >     >>
>>                         >     >
>>                         >     > Or an insectoid.  There are people
>>                         who are capable of finding bugs
>>                         >     cute, but
>>                         >     > many others have a visceral repulsion
>>                         to anything with an exoskeleton.
>>                         >     >
>>                         >     > I'm just trying to compare these
>>                         proposals to the existing OS
>>                         >     mascots that
>>                         >     > are out there:  Puffy (cute li'l
>>                         pufferfish), Beastie (cute li'l
>>                         >     "daemon"),
>>                         >     > Tux (cute[1] li'l penguin), whatever
>>                         the Minix raccoon is
>>                         >     called... do I see
>>                         >     > a pattern here?
>>                         >     >
>>                         >     > And then we have this thing that
>>                         looks like a robot bug devil.
>>                         >     Beastie may
>>                         >     > look like a devil too, but at least
>>                         he's a *cute* devil...
>>                         >     >
>>                         >     > [1] Until you notice his resemblance
>>                         to Homer Simpson.
>>                         >     >
>>                         >
>>                         >     I second that. I'm no artist myself
>>                         however initial suggestions by Jay
>>                         >     Patel are more in line with current
>>                         trends and what people like in
>>                         >     general.
>>                         >     In my opinion the logo should be cute,
>>                         fun, not too serious. Like
>>                         >     Golang's gopher perhaps?
>>                         >
>>                         >     This suggestion:
>>                         >
>>                         https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l
>>                         >   
>>                          <https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l>
>>                         >     shows a good example for me. NetBSD's
>>                         colours, he's a runner (reference
>>                         >     to "of course it runs NetBSD". It's too
>>                         detailed, though - Jay, can it
>>                         >     be simplified a bit? Try some other
>>                         poses with open eyes?
>>                         >     It's in the right direction imho.
>>                         >
>>                         >     Regards
>>                         >     --
>>                         >     Bartek Krawczyk
>>                         >
>>
>

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    <font face="DejaVu Sans">Hi Jay!<br>
      <br>
      Nice find! :)<br>
      Cats have such a huge sympathy capital, and share common
      characteristics with daemons. ;)<br>
      Plus this one is really simple hardware-wise, so it shouldn't take
      long to see it making its first steps.<br>
      What do others think?<br>
      <br>
      Kind regards<br>
      <br>
      Vincent<br>
    </font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/09/2022 12:52, Jay Patel wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CABnE4+LACWXQ-m1fVEhhnK71i=CbJceofxFMwv-yA2SyuRr_PA@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">
        <div>This is something similar <a
href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nybble-world-s-cutest-open-source-robotic-cat#/"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nybble-world-s-cutest-open-source-robotic-cat#/</a></div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">We can have mascot like this <br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 6 May, 2021, 1:06
              pm Vincent DEFERT, &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div> <font face="DejaVu Sans">Good idea! :)<br>
                  <br>
                  A robot project provides opportunities for many
                  exciting developments:<br>
                  <br>
                  - human-machine interaction (e.g. </font><font
                  face="DejaVu Sans"><font face="DejaVu Sans">saying
                    Hello! to known people, </font>getting to know new
                  people, proposing to help a visitor)<br>
                  - autonomous navigation (e.g. learning obstacle types,
                  learning the building's map, opening and closing
                  doors, climbing stairs / using elevator)<br>
                  - personality and purpose (i.e. everything pertaining
                  to relationships within a group)<br>
                  - many technical details (e.g. RF communications, edge
                  computing, energy efficiency/frugality)<br>
                </font><font face="DejaVu Sans"><br>
                  This means the mascot would live many adventures in
                  the long term, which would provide an original way of
                  fostering the relationships with the NetBSD community
                  - and probably well beyond!<br>
                  A blog (or maybe UnitedBSD) should be used from the
                  start to communicate about the design and construction
                  of the mascot robot  and, once up and running, about
                  subsequent projects.<br>
                  The community should of course be involved whenever
                  possible, e.g. through brainstorms, competitions,
                  sub-projects, etc.<br>
                  Communication would thus give the mascot a life on its
                  own even before it is powered on. :)<br>
                  I guess academia could also be interested in using the
                  mascot as a basis for </font><font face="DejaVu Sans"><font
                    face="DejaVu Sans">AI research projects</font>.<br>
                  Furthermore, in the long run, the mascot could have
                  cybernetic friends or siblings... :)<br>
                </font><font face="DejaVu Sans"><br>
                  I have mainly full-stack development + </font><font
                  face="DejaVu Sans"><font face="DejaVu Sans">embedded</font>
                  skills, so I'd like to team with someone into design
                  (I'm really terrible at visual arts) and someone else
                  into AI.<br>
                  This would not only help reliably cover all critical
                  aspects of the project, but would also help sustain
                  motivation over time, a key success factor to
                  spare-time projects.<br>
                  <br>
                </font>
                <div>On 05/05/2021 14:01, Jay Patel wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="auto">Vincent@ maybe you can create one for
                    Community with community funded. 
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">Maybe foundation can create Robotics
                      competition for Mascot :) </div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 2 May,
                      2021, 9:25 am Jay Patel, &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:[email protected]"
                        target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                      <div dir="auto">
                        <div>Vincent@ maybe take parts from <a
                            href="https://www..generationrobots.com/en/"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.generationrobots.com/en/</a>
                          and assemble NetBSD mascot be ready to be
                          programmed ? :)<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 17
                              Feb, 2021, 12:35 pm Jay Patel, &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <div dir="auto">I also had another concept
                                that we can have robot mascot but as
                                actual robot which only three boar
                                members will keep and it will of course
                                run using NetBSD and can be developed
                                with OSS hardwares available in market
                                :) 
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto">Other plush toys of
                                  robot can be made available but we can
                                  have actual robot in foundation which
                                  will also be programmed :P</div>
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto">For eg. Boston Dynamic
                                  has "spot"</div>
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto">Thanks and Regards ,</div>
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Tue, 16 Feb, 2021, 1:47 am Michael
                                  Cheponis, &lt;<a
                                    href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                    noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                                  wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                                    <div class="gmail_default"
                                      style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                                      rather liked the 'group' idea
                                      because they were all, you know,
                                      "networked" together.</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                      Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM
                                      Nikolay Kalev &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                        noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      <div dir="auto">Hi all,</div>
                                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div dir="auto">Maybe there could
                                        be few mascots instead of one ?</div>
                                      <div dir="auto">Old logo was a
                                        group of mascots with devices
                                        and computers around them, but
                                        also possible to have them
                                        independently.</div>
                                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
                                      <div dir="auto">Nikolay</div>
                                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr"
                                            class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
                                            15 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Kamil
                                            Rytarowski &lt;<a
                                              href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                                            wrote:<br>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote
                                            class="gmail_quote"
                                            style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                                            0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This squirrel with a pumpkin is a
                                            cute idea and I support it.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            On 15.02.2021 09:49, Jay
                                            Patel wrote:<br>
                                            &gt; Bartek@ okay i will try
                                            to get more poses and
                                            simplified.<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt; Kamil@ inspired by
                                            maya@'s squirrel pic one
                                            example if animal mascot<br>
                                            &gt; required<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt; <a
                                              href="https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg</a><br>
                                            &gt; &lt;<a
                                              href="https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer"
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                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://app.box.com/s/m4dhpgihuu7jmizo01yn2qkzj3cx1qeg</a>&gt;<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt; Thanks,<br>
                                            &gt; Jay<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt; On Sun, 14 Feb, 2021,
                                            7:59 pm Bartek Krawczyk,<br>
                                            &gt; &lt;<a
                                              href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>
                                            &lt;mailto:<a
                                              href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;&gt;
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt;     W dniu 12.02.2021
                                            o 22:37, A Dog pisze:<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; On Mon, Feb
                                            08, 2021 at 01:12:38AM PST,
                                            Kamil Rytarowski wrote:<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;&gt; Can we
                                            avoid the appearance of a
                                            monster, devil or an alien?<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; Or an
                                            insectoid.  There are people
                                            who are capable of finding
                                            bugs<br>
                                            &gt;     cute, but<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; many others
                                            have a visceral repulsion to
                                            anything with an
                                            exoskeleton.<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; I'm just
                                            trying to compare these
                                            proposals to the existing OS<br>
                                            &gt;     mascots that<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; are out
                                            there:  Puffy (cute li'l
                                            pufferfish), Beastie (cute
                                            li'l<br>
                                            &gt;     "daemon"),<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; Tux (cute[1]
                                            li'l penguin), whatever the
                                            Minix raccoon is<br>
                                            &gt;     called... do I see<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; a pattern
                                            here?<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; And then we
                                            have this thing that looks
                                            like a robot bug devil. <br>
                                            &gt;     Beastie may<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; look like a
                                            devil too, but at least he's
                                            a *cute* devil...<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt; [1] Until you
                                            notice his resemblance to
                                            Homer Simpson.<br>
                                            &gt;     &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt;     I second that. I'm
                                            no artist myself however
                                            initial suggestions by Jay<br>
                                            &gt;     Patel are more in
                                            line with current trends and
                                            what people like in<br>
                                            &gt;     general.<br>
                                            &gt;     In my opinion the
                                            logo should be cute, fun,
                                            not too serious. Like<br>
                                            &gt;     Golang's gopher
                                            perhaps?<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt;     This suggestion:<br>
                                            &gt;     <a
                                              href="https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l</a><br>
                                            &gt;     &lt;<a
                                              href="https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://app.box.com/s/hp7ie5430jiwz5r3xxmju7voxbjfuj2l</a>&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;     shows a good
                                            example for me. NetBSD's
                                            colours, he's a runner
                                            (reference<br>
                                            &gt;     to "of course it
                                            runs NetBSD". It's too
                                            detailed, though - Jay, can
                                            it<br>
                                            &gt;     be simplified a
                                            bit? Try some other poses
                                            with open eyes?<br>
                                            &gt;     It's in the right
                                            direction imho.<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
                                            &gt;     Regards<br>
                                            &gt;     -- <br>
                                            &gt;     Bartek Krawczyk<br>
                                            &gt; <br>
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