Re: Workpad Z50 unable to detect/use Microdrive ?

Warner Losh <[email protected]> Thu, 30 Apr 2015 08:09:23 -0600
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> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Larry Stotler <[email protected]> =
wrote:
>=20
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Warner Losh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I=E2=80=99ve had issues with micro drives on these embedded platforms =
not having
>> enough power to work right. Never used the model you are using, =
though,
>> so I don=E2=80=99t know if that=E2=80=99s what=E2=80=99s going south =
or not. While the spec says they
>> should work, the early hand held devices, like the one you have, were
>> notoriously underpowered, leading to many weird things when you tried
>> to put generic hardware in.
>=20
> I found out that the white label Hitachi Microdrives are "tru IDE"
> drives, and won't work as memory devices.  A blue label drive is
> required to use it in the Z50.  I was unable to get the white label
> microdrives to work in my Thinkpad X21 either.  They work fine in my
> Thinkpad T60p's Advanced Dock, evidently because the dock supports it.
> Cheapest 6GB blue label Drive I found was $40 so I doubt I will bother
> with it.
>=20
> I will try to source a PCMCIA to CF adapter & see if that works.
> Don't know if it will tho.  Tru IDE drives use DMA, which I doubt the
> Z50 has the ability to do, PCMCIA or CF.

No PCMICA card can do DMA. Cardbus can, but there=E2=80=99s no DMA =
defined
in the PCMICA =E2=80=9Cr2=E2=80=9D standard that defines 16-bit PC =
Cards. The CF form
factor in the Z50 is just the PC Card form, not the true IDE form. So =
you
are out of luck if you want a DMA storage option on this card.

>> I just picked up a second one.  I was hoping it had the 32MB RAM
> upgrade because it came with the Dock & Serial Cable, but it didn't.
> Oh well.  Spare parts.  Oh course, both of the adapters I have were
> part of the recall, which I doubt they would honor anymore=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6..

What recall was that?

Warner


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