Re: you guys' work promote my mental health

justina colmena ~biz <[email protected]> Fri, 28 Mar 2025 06:58:30 -0700
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The shrinks got too litigious, and "mental health" is practiced as a branch=
 of "law" alongside "intellectual property" and other matters that are eith=
er "imaginary" or "all in your head" =2E=2E=2E

There are laws against "simulating legal process" over such imaginary matt=
ers etc=2E <https://law=2Ejustia=2Ecom/codes/alaska/title-11/chapter-56/art=
icle-4/section-11-56-620/>
but such laws are never enforced, because even without a Constitution the =
law itself can't be illegal in a court of law, and even if it were, the att=
orneys can't prosecute themselves or else they'd put themselves out of busi=
ness for their own practices=2E

The "law" itself by definition being whatever "lawyers" keep themselves in=
 business practicing and billing for=2E Unless you think you can be success=
ful in court as yet another crackpot mentally ill "pro se" petitioner with =
a flat tire or another speeding ticket or traffic violation on the way to c=
ourt you must answer, with paying off all your parking tickets and getting =
your vehicle released from city hall impound after court, but your own peti=
tions are just going to be professionally dismissed for failure to appear a=
t any one of those numerous perfunctory court hearings for filing a suit=2E=
 Cops have grappling hooks and shoot-out axle nets to physically disable an=
d stop your vehicle on the road now=2E That's why the real pro lawyers alwa=
ys hail a cab or take Uber or Lyft to court because you can't even consider=
 driving or parking your own vehicle in a hostile red-light district=2E

On March 28, 2025 2:48:29 AM PDT, sylvain@saboua=2Eme wrote:
>On 2025-03-28 07:01, justina colmena ~biz wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:51:35=E2=80=AFAM Pacific Daylight Time iz=
zy Meyer wrote:
>>> Curious why you chose to invalidate this person's experience that they
>>> made themselves vulnerable about=2E Sure- you have your views on thing=
s,
>>> and that's totally cool=2E But maybe try being a bit more forgiving of
>>> someone who, again, made themselves vulnerable next time?
>> People serve process with mental health allegations that sticks worse t=
han a
>> felony record in court for the rest of a person's life, and they want o=
thers
>> to be forgiving of them?
>>=20
>Oh ! I think I get you=2E I had the impression that you were sympathetic =
to
>antipsychiatry, especially given the related posts on your blog=2E I'm st=
ill
>not very sure but =2E=2E=2E I've never been charged for anything criminal=
 or against
>the law, you're making quite a broad generalization here=2E
>When talking about mental illness and the aforementioned soothing I get f=
rom
>obsd and suckless, I was alluding to the relative cognitive overload
>undeliberately enforced by other projects which seems mostly absent from =
these
>two =E2=80=93 as hinted at in the title of my page UNIX=2Ehtml @saboua=2E=
xyz
>
>> Mental health services, like those of astrologers or magicians, psychic=
s,
>> tarot card readers, palmists, have gained far too much of a sheen of
>> legitimacy (or color of law, as it were) in court for service of proces=
s and
>> summons to appear -- Say does a person really have an organic "mental i=
llness"
>> of known etiology? Or is it simply a case of simulated legal process wi=
th a
>> catch-all diagnosis to make a person appear "formally mad" in a court o=
f law
>> for some other legal summons?
>>=20
>That's right=2E A lot of diagnoses are abusive, esp=2E when considering t=
he prevalent
>traumatic liminal state that pervades among our relatives within society=
=2E But as
>for me I attribute this to Big Pharma's lucrative motive, not legal summo=
ns which
>I've seen cases of while at the ward=2E
>
>> Absolutely no morality is inherent in the "law" just because it's the l=
aw=2E
>Precisely=2E Legal is not necessarily moral=2E
>
>Sylvain Saboua

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<html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">The shrinks got too litigious, a=
nd "mental health" is practiced as a branch of "law" alongside "intellectua=
l property" and other matters that are either "imaginary" or "all in your h=
ead" =2E=2E=2E<br><br>There are laws against "simulating legal process" ove=
r such imaginary matters etc=2E &lt;<a href=3D"https://law=2Ejustia=2Ecom/c=
odes/alaska/title-11/chapter-56/article-4/section-11-56-620/">https://law=
=2Ejustia=2Ecom/codes/alaska/title-11/chapter-56/article-4/section-11-56-62=
0/</a>&gt;<br>but such laws are never enforced, because even without a Cons=
titution the law itself can't be illegal in a court of law, and even if it =
were, the attorneys can't prosecute themselves or else they'd put themselve=
s out of business for their own practices=2E<br><br>The "law" itself by def=
inition being whatever "lawyers" keep themselves in business practicing and=
 billing for=2E Unless you think you can be successful in court as yet anot=
her crackpot mentally ill "pro se" petitioner with a flat tire or another s=
peeding ticket or traffic violation on the way to court you must answer, wi=
th paying off all your parking tickets and getting your vehicle released fr=
om city hall impound after court, but your own petitions are just going to =
be professionally dismissed for failure to appear at any one of those numer=
ous perfunctory court hearings for filing a suit=2E Cops have grappling hoo=
ks and shoot-out axle nets to physically disable and stop your vehicle on t=
he road now=2E That's why the real pro lawyers always hail a cab or take Ub=
er or Lyft to court because you can't even consider driving or parking your=
 own vehicle in a hostile red-light district=2E</div><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">On March 28, 2025 2:48:29 AM PDT, sylvain@sa=
boua=2Eme wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left:=
 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"k9mail"><div dir=3D"auto">On 2025-03-28 07:01, justina colme=
na ~biz wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">On Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:51:35=E2=80=AFAM Pacific Dayl=
ight Time izzy Meyer wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-l=
eft: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"auto">Curious why you chose to invalidate this perso=
n's experience that they<br>made themselves vulnerable about=2E Sure- you h=
ave your views on things,<br>and that's totally cool=2E But maybe try being=
 a bit more forgiving of<br>someone who, again, made themselves vulnerable =
next time?<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto">People serve process wit=
h mental health allegations that sticks worse than a<br>felony record in co=
urt for the rest of a person's life, and they want others<br>to be forgivin=
g of them?<br><br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto">Oh ! I think I get y=
ou=2E I had the impression that you were sympathetic to<br>antipsychiatry, =
especially given the related posts on your blog=2E I'm still<br>not very su=
re but =2E=2E=2E I've never been charged for anything criminal or against<b=
r>the law, you're making quite a broad generalization here=2E<br>When talki=
ng about mental illness and the aforementioned soothing I get from<br>obsd =
and suckless, I was alluding to the relative cognitive overload<br>undelibe=
rately enforced by other projects which seems mostly absent from these<br>t=
wo =E2=80=93 as hinted at in the title of my page UNIX=2Ehtml @saboua=2Exyz=
<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1e=
x 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"=
auto">Mental health services, like those of astrologers or magicians, psych=
ics,<br>tarot card readers, palmists, have gained far too much of a sheen o=
f<br>legitimacy (or color of law, as it were) in court for service of proce=
ss and<br>summons to appear -- Say does a person really have an organic "me=
ntal illness"<br>of known etiology? Or is it simply a case of simulated leg=
al process with a<br>catch-all diagnosis to make a person appear "formally =
mad" in a court of law<br>for some other legal summons?<br><br></div></bloc=
kquote><div dir=3D"auto">That's right=2E A lot of diagnoses are abusive, es=
p=2E when considering the prevalent<br>traumatic liminal state that pervade=
s among our relatives within society=2E But as<br>for me I attribute this t=
o Big Pharma's lucrative motive, not legal summons which<br>I've seen cases=
 of while at the ward=2E<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-=
left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"auto">Absolutely no morality is inherent in the "la=
w" just because it's the law=2E<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto">Pre=
cisely=2E Legal is not necessarily moral=2E<br><br>Sylvain Saboua<br></div>=
</pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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