Re: spinlocks

I figured that Theo normally dispenses the OpenBSD funds to developers, so in 
starting this sideshow get some advise from theo about his plans for the next 
OpenBSD release because as has been pointed out before, the integration of 
SMP touches every or at least lots of inches in OpenBSD and if theo is not 
cooperative, due different priorities for OpenBSD you are essentially 
throwing away your money.

PS I'll be interested in funding 1 developerhour per month at least for the 
first three months. After that a progress report would be in order to see if 
we are throwing our money away in this SMP project.  See if you can get the 
other 160-200 hours filled up.  My preference would be doing it via the 
openbsd paypall if possible. 

You could also pay him to be an coder/coordinator because there must be some 
people on this list who have some time and some knowlegde (Bachelor Computer 
Science) to be educated on what to look for in the openbsd code and rewrite 
it to be reentrant / SMP safe. This way the money invested in the coder might 
be  more effecient in the long run because your create more people who can 
code and diagnose SMP problems. 


On Wednesday 26 March 2003 19:15, Chris Cameron wrote:
> Nah, I've been thinking a little more and I think this could work.
>
> Before anyone starts collecting money we'd need to find a current OBSD
> developer who'd be willing to work for $30-ish (preferably Canadian (for
> me)). I'd then ask that developer to give us ideas how much time he'd
> need to get to certain, important points.
>
> Some concerns I'd have is that we probably couldn't pay for SMP start to
> finish, so I'd worry that what we did manage to pay for would get left
> behind as the main OBSD tree kept on going, making what we paid for less
> and less useful. Everyone donating would need to be sure they had proper
> expectations.
>
>
> I'd be willing to organize this and have the means to take credit cards
> (not through paypal), plus some money I could put forward myself.
>
> At $30/Hour working 10 hour days, it'd be $6k per month. Which seems
> high, but with enough people contributing seems ok. To get a better idea
> of how "expensive" that is, we'd need to find out how much work could
> get done in a month.
>
> I think if this works well (paying developers) there's a number of "pet"
> things that I'd personally like to see aside from SMP. Like support for
> older releases.
>
>
> Anywho, any developers here interested? At this point it's "all talk",
> but if anyone is interested, it could turn into something decent.
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 10:52, Frank J. Mattia wrote:
> > so whats the average developer go for these days...   20, 30, 40$ an
> > hour?   on my pay, and generosity id be able to get a decent developer
> > to do maybe 5 hours of work... and thats usually just enough time to
> > wade through docs...  not even settle in and start programming....
> >
> > unless someone wants to support and fund some serious (i dont have
> > serious money.. i have the bastard child of "really, i mean it,
> > pleeeeese" money) money.. i dont think it would get far.. but the idea
> > in and of itself is a good one...
> >
> > frank.

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