Re: The situation with version 0.4.14
Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <[email protected]> Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:27:52 +0200
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--===============5899417356755637369== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009c0c9105c78aaba3" --0000000000009c0c9105c78aaba3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sooo... what about this, guys? 0.4.13 is ancient... is there any blocker issue yet? On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 5:40 PM George Bi=C5=9Foc <[email protected]= > wrote: > I'd also vote for the 1st point and ultimately list the current > regressions in the press release. After all the remaining regressions can > be fixed and further regression testing be continued in the next release = as > usual. Most of the regressions which belong within user mode aren't huge > stop-blockers so I see no point in delaying the release much. > > > Victor Perevertkin <[email protected]> wrote on Tue, > February 9th, 2021, 4:47 PM: > > Hello! > > > > It seems for me that it's time to bring up the topic about our RC > > version - 0.4.14. > > > > Our current "stable", 0.4.13 was branched on 30 September, 2019 > > (remember those peacefull pre-COVID times :D) > > That's quite some time, but not the main issue I'd like to discuss. > > > > 0.4.14 was branched on 24 April, 2020. That's almost a year already. > > And we're in a difficult situation here - there are regressions, but > > nobody fixed them within this long time. > > According to https://reactos.org/wiki/Tests_for_0.4.14, there are 29 > > unfixed regressions found for this release. I'd like to point out: most > > of them are among usermode and non-kernel/driver functionality, and as > > our development is mostly focused in the kernel right now, it's > > unexpected for them to be fixed unless a volunteer comes up. > > > > A quick reminder. Our "releases" mechanism is useful for finding > > regressions in the first place, there is no that much benefit for users > > here, because we're still a "deep" alpha. Correct me if I'm wrong. > > Joakim made a great job finding all regressions, and this work won't be > > lost in any case. > > > > We can't wait forever and I think it's time to resolve this situation > > somehow. I see two options: > > 1. Release 0.4.14 as-is. There were a lot more buggy releases, nobody > > dies from this. > > 2. Skip 0.4.14. This already happened once in the history of the > > project - 0.3.2 was skipped. I wasn't around at the time, but I may > > guess that reasons were similar to what we have today. > > (3.) Fix the bugs quickly. I don't expect this to happen, but who > > knows, maybe a volunteer appears :) > > > > Let's vote. This seem to be the only way for us to decide on things. > > Votes from the team members will be collected until 1 March. > > > > =3D=3D=3D > > > > I personally vote for skipping the release. The work on finding > > regressions is already done, so the most important part of a release > > cycle for us is there (thanks Joakim!) > > If we do a release now, all the stuff we were writing in news reports > > for the last 6 month would be missing from it. That would cause (as I > > think) a lot of confusion to people. Moreover 0.4.14 is not that > > featureful release itself (compared to 0.4.13, which brought the new > > USB stack) > > So I suggest to move on and start checking 0.4.15 for regressions. I > > expect quite some of them to appear and we need time for fixing. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Victor > > _______________________________________________ > Ros-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > --0000000000009c0c9105c78aaba3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sooo... what about this, guys? 0.4.13 is ancient... i= s there any blocker issue yet?<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote= "><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 5:40 PM Geo= rge Bi=C5=9Foc <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">george.bisoc= @reactos.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl= e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin= g-left:1ex">I'd also vote for the 1st point and ultimately list the cur= rent regressions in the press release. After all the remaining regressions = can be fixed and further regression testing be continued in the next releas= e as usual. Most of the regressions which belong within user mode aren'= t huge stop-blockers so I see no point in delaying the release much.<br> <br> <br> Victor Perevertkin <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta= rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote on Tue, Februa= ry 9th, 2021, 4:47 PM:<br> > Hello!<br> > <br> > It seems for me that it's time to bring up the topic about our RC<= br> > version - 0.4.14.<br> > <br> > Our current "stable", 0.4.13 was branched on 30 September, 2= 019<br> > (remember those peacefull pre-COVID times :D)<br> > That's quite some time, but not the main issue I'd like to dis= cuss.<br> > <br> > 0.4.14 was branched on 24 April, 2020. That's almost a year alread= y.<br> > And we're in a difficult situation here - there are regressions, b= ut<br> > nobody fixed them within this long time.<br> > According to <a href=3D"https://reactos.org/wiki/Tests_for_0.4.14" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://reactos.org/wiki/Tests_for_0.4.14= </a>, there are 29<br> > unfixed regressions found for this release. I'd like to point out:= most<br> > of them are among usermode and non-kernel/driver functionality, and as= <br> > our development is mostly focused in the kernel right now, it's<br= > > unexpected for them to be fixed unless a volunteer comes up.<br> > <br> > A quick reminder. Our "releases" mechanism is useful for fin= ding<br> > regressions in the first place, there is no that much benefit for user= s<br> > here, because we're still a "deep" alpha. Correct me if = I'm wrong.<br> > Joakim made a great job finding all regressions, and this work won'= ;t be<br> > lost in any case.<br> > <br> > We can't wait forever and I think it's time to resolve this si= tuation<br> > somehow. I see two options:<br> > 1. Release 0.4.14 as-is. There were a lot more buggy releases, nobody<= br> > dies from this.<br> > 2. Skip 0.4.14. This already happened once in the history of the<br> > project - 0.3.2 was skipped. I wasn't around at the time, but I ma= y<br> > guess that reasons were similar to what we have today.<br> > (3.) Fix the bugs quickly. I don't expect this to happen, but who<= br> > knows, maybe a volunteer appears :)<br> > <br> > Let's vote. This seem to be the only way for us to decide on thing= s.<br> > Votes from the team members will be collected until 1 March.<br> > <br> > =3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > I personally vote for skipping the release. The work on finding<br> > regressions is already done, so the most important part of a release<b= r> > cycle for us is there (thanks Joakim!)<br> > If we do a release now, all the stuff we were writing in news reports<= br> > for the last 6 month would be missing from it. That would cause (as I<= br> > think) a lot of confusion to people. Moreover 0.4.14 is not that<br> > featureful release itself (compared to 0.4.13, which brought the new<b= r> > USB stack)<br> > So I suggest to move on and start checking 0.4.15 for regressions. I<b= r> > expect quite some of them to appear and we need time for fixing.<br> > <br> > <br> > Cheers,<br> > Victor<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Ros-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= g</a><br> <a href=3D"http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev" rel=3D"noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev</a><br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000009c0c9105c78aaba3-- --===============5899417356755637369== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Ros-dev mailing list [email protected] http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev --===============5899417356755637369==--