Will the real A. scabra please....

+Ah! now I am at peace LOL!


>From: "Steve" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [AGAVACEAE] Will the real A. scabra please....
>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:57:50 -0800
>
>Dear Breck,
>
>Close enough.
>
>Agave scabra Salm-Dyck in Gentry (1982) and the plant seen in collections
>under that name is correctly named Agave asperrima Jacobi. It is an Agave
>species with broad rough (or rarely smooth) leaves that is very common in
>the Chihuahuan desert of Mexico and adjacent Texas.
>
>Agave scabra Ortega is Manfreda scabra (Ortega) McVaugh, formerly known as
>Manfreda brachystachya (Cavanilles) Rose. Manfreda scabra is a bulbous
>species with deciduous leaves. It is widespread in southern Mexico,
>Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador but seldom grown in collections.
>
>Cereusly Steve
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: B B <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:17 PM
>Subject: [AGAVACEAE] Will the real A. scabra please....
>
>
>Dear Steve, let me see now.  There is an Agave scabra Ortega, but it isn't
>what we have been calling Agave scabra?  So, the agave that has been known
>as A. scabra is in fact A. asperrima Jacobi, whereas the "real" Agave 
>scabra
>is some agave few people know?  Breck
>
>
>
> >Dear Breck,
> >
> >Both names were validly published. The species Ortega named Agave scabra
> >was a completely different one from which Salm-Dyck named Agave scabra. 
>So
> >Agave scabra Salm-Dyck requires a different name of which the earliest
> >available is Agave asperrima Jacobi. There is no reason to conserve Agave
> >scabra Salm-Dyck because the name had been used only relatively recently
> >and the species is again being called Agave asperrima Jacobi in the most
> >recent literature.
>
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