Re: [Sansevierias] S. 'Socotra' - a Glasshouse invention?

Hermine Stover <[email protected]> Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:38:05 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.plants.sansevieria.collectors
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At 12:06 PM 2/20/2014, you wrote:
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>Its been a number of years since the name S. Socotra was discussed 
>here. Hermine will have to verify this, but I believe this name is 
>not valid. It is a made-up name that implies it came from Socotra. 
>Glasshouse doesn't seem to like plants named with only a collection 
>number. 'Lav. 309' is not a very sexy name.
>We have taken Glasshouse Works to the woodshed here over and over 
>again as a purveyor of BAD names. I have visited them personally 
>with my brother, Dale, some 12+ years ago and found few names on 
>their plants. I surmised they are not judicious about accuracy of 
>names, or what they send out.  Sansevierias are not their forte, and 
>they don't take kindly to anybody correcting their errors.


NO indeed, they used to write them cruel and menacing letters and 
then continue, in the face of all PROOF, to deny the correct names in 
favour of names provided by their friends. I still feel bad when I 
see their pitiful picture of 'Mangetsu' which really IS a gorgeous 
plant and not just plain Silver trifasciata laurentii.  However, they 
did not invent the fake name Socotra. they just failed to update 
their stuff in a traditional way for them.

Mike you should not indulge in false modesty as you are widely 
celebrated as a GENIUS in my house, which means elsewhere as well 
since people talk.

hermine

>Olga made reference to the name 'socotra' in a previous message and 
>I made, and attached here, full scans of the 3 pertinent pages in 
>the Sansevieria Journal for any who might want to read what J. 
>Chahinian said about the plant called Socotra. It is a bit confusing 
>for me to follow given my God-given inability to juggle more than 2 
>concepts in my head at once, but the pages will print on 8.5 X 11 
>paper which makes it a bit easier.
>This whole Socotra / Lake Sibaya / Concina thing makes my head hurt 
>to think about it. The bottom line to me is this about Jude's 
>picture of "Socotra from Glasshouse": Jude, I see no sign of a 
>petiole on your plant. It looks  like it could be S. subspicata. But 
>thats jus' me.
>M.