Re: How to link carism and environmentalism

Robert Dierker <[email protected]> Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:37:32 -0700 (PDT)
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HI Geoff.

   That's a lot of good information.  In the future I want to build a 
cheat-sheet of statements about carism. The statements will be links to to 
a page of links on that topic. 

   Your links seem both science-based and environmentally focused.  Can you 
help me with this part of the project?

Bob.


   

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:37:23 AM UTC-7, Geoff Beacon wrote:
>
>   That's a hard one Robert.
>   
>  You could get them to measure their carbon footprints. 
> http://www.greenrationbook.org.uk
>   
>  To turn the world from disaster we need a very large Carbon Tax. 
> http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/
>   
>  and a new way of living 
> http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/making-planning-work-differently/
>   
>  In York, UK I have proposed this 
> http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/work-in-progress-a-plan-for-york/
>   
>  and this 
> http://www.yorkmix.com/home-page/can-your-children-afford-to-live-in-york/
>   
>
>  Best of luck
>   
>  Geoff
>   
>  P.S. When the car free came to York I didn't get much support for 
> anything to do with climate change.
>   
>  Perhaps the penny will drop soon. See http://bkuk.com/eu/
>   
>  ----- Original message -----
>  From: Robert Dierker <[email protected]>
>  To: carfree_network-/[email protected]
>  Subject: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism
>  Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
>   
> Hello.
>
>    I volunteer for several environmental groups in Vancouver Canada.  One 
> thing they seem to have in common is a belief that the use of cars is a 
> necessary evil within their organizations.  I can send many examples, if 
> requested, but I'm sure you've all seen it. 
>
>    Canada and the US are stuck in a well orchestrated car culture - no 
> doubt about it - and the natural resources of Canada are now hijacked by 
> foreign corporate giants.  Their government lobby efforts and PR machines 
> are in full force here.
>
>    My great concern, now, is that our new batch of young 
> environmentalists can't leave their cars behind.  This is not 
> particularly new, but seems to be more pronounced than it used to be.  
> Our environmental movements can't move forward with this kind of base 
> line.
>
>    I have no particular influence within Vancouver's environmental movement, 
> however I want to affect this one component of change: I want these 
> groups to weigh the value of each member's opinion and motivation with 
> respect to their personal activities with cars.
>
>    Before I go I would like to remind any reader that Canada gets REALLY 
> cold.  These groups have to define models that will work in an 
> individualistic, affluent society at -25c.
>
>    How do I do this?  Please help.
>
> Robert.
> 604-440-0860
>
>  
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<font size=3D"4">HI Geoff.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; That's a lot of good informa=
tion.&nbsp; In the future I want to build a cheat-sheet of statements about=
 carism. The statements will be links to to a page of links on that topic. =
<br><br><font size=3D"4">&nbsp;&nbsp; You<font size=3D"4">r links <font siz=
e=3D"4">seem both science<font size=3D"4">-based and environmentally focuse=
d.&nbsp; Can you help me with this part of the project?</font></font></font=
></font></font><br><br>Bob.<br><br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>On Wednesday, O=
ctober 17, 2012 7:37:23 AM UTC-7, Geoff Beacon wrote:<blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:medium" dir=3D"ltr"><div>
	<div>
		<div>
			That's a hard one Robert.</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			You could get them to measure their carbon footprints. <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.greenrationbook.org.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.greenrationbook.<=
wbr>org.uk</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			To turn the world from disaster we need a very large Carbon Tax. <a href=
=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/<wbr>carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/</a=
></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			and a new way of living <a href=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/making-=
planning-work-differently/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk=
/<wbr>making-planning-work-<wbr>differently/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			In York, UK I have proposed this <a href=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.u=
k/work-in-progress-a-plan-for-york/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.brusselsb=
log.co.uk/<wbr>work-in-progress-a-plan-for-<wbr>york/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			and this <a href=3D"http://www.yorkmix.com/home-page/can-your-children-a=
fford-to-live-in-york/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.yorkmix.com/home-<wbr>=
page/can-your-children-afford-<wbr>to-live-in-york/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<br>
		<div>
			Best of luck</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			Geoff</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			P.S. When the car free came to York I didn't get much support for anythi=
ng to do with climate change.<br>
			<div>
				&nbsp;</div>
		</div>
		<div>
			Perhaps the penny will drop soon. See <a href=3D"http://bkuk.com/eu/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://bkuk.com/eu/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			----- Original message -----</div>
		<div>
			From: Robert Dierker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</div>
		<div>
			To: <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
">carfree_network@googlegroups.<wbr>com</a></div>
		<div>
			Subject: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism</div>
		<div>
			Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT)</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">Hello.<br>
		<br>
		&nbsp;&nbsp; I volunteer for several environmental groups<span style=3D"f=
ont-size:large"> in Vancouver Canada.&nbsp; On<span style=3D"font-size:larg=
e">e thing they seem to have in common is a belief that the use of cars is =
a necessary evil within their organizations.<span style=3D"font-size:large"=
>&nbsp; <span style=3D"font-size:large">I can send many examples, if reques=
ted, but I'm sure you've all seen it.</span></span>&nbsp;<br>
		<br>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Canada and the US are=
 stuck in a well <span style=3D"font-size:large">orchestrated</span> car cu=
lture - no doubt about it<span style=3D"font-size:large"> - and the natural=
 resources of Canada <span style=3D"font-size:large">are</span> no<span sty=
le=3D"font-size:large">w hijacked by foreign corporate giants.&nbsp; The<sp=
an style=3D"font-size:large">ir government lobby efforts and PR machines ar=
e in full force here.</span><br>
		<br>
		&nbsp;&nbsp; M</span>y great concern, now, is that <span style=3D"font-si=
ze:large">our new batch of young environmentalists can't leave their car<sp=
an style=3D"font-size:large">s behind.&nbsp; This is not particularly new, =
but <span style=3D"font-size:large">seems to be</span> more pronounced<span=
 style=3D"font-size:large"> than it used to be.</span>&nbsp; Our <span styl=
e=3D"font-size:large">environmental</span> movements can't move forward wit=
h this kind of base line.<br>
		<br>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">&nbsp;&nbsp; I have no particular influen=
ce within Vancouver's environmental movement<span style=3D"font-size:large"=
>, however I want to <span style=3D"font-size:large">affect this one compon=
ent of change: I want these groups to <span style=3D"font-size:large">weigh=
</span> the value of <span style=3D"font-size:large">each</span> member's o=
pinion </span></span></span>and motivation with respect to their personal a=
ctivities with cars.<br>
		<br>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">&nbsp;&nbsp; Before I go I would like to =
remind any reader that Canada gets REALLY cold.&nbsp; These groups have to =
define models that will work in an individualistic, affluent society at -25=
c.</span><br>
		<br>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style=3D"font-size:lar=
ge">How do I do this?&nbsp; Please help.<br>
		<br>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">Robert.<br>
		<span style=3D"font-size:large">604-440-0860</span></span></span></span><=
/span></span></span></span></span></span><br>
		<p>
			&nbsp;</p>
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