Re: Re: genoa protests
Kendall Clark <kendall-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected]>
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>>>>> "john" == John Smith <[email protected]> writes: john> The English Propaganda machine was hard at work trying to john> minimise the damage from the outset. The protesters were john> rioters and the poor police were only trying to protect john> property. First reports claimed the protester was hit by a john> rock and accidentally knocked down by a jeep. These john> propagandists are amateurish. These patterns of response are 1) clear, 2) predictable, and 3) very consistent. I think we can turn this to our advantage during DC. john> Tony came out with his tired old " of course there are john> problems in the world, and of course blah blah blah, but we john> can only resolve them by dialogue bullshit. Blair is super annoying. He gives me instant headache any time I see his misshapen head. john> Rolling out " The Mouth" Geldof and the gobshite Bono is a john> waste of time and air, instead face up to what has to be done john> and expect more death and destruction. I read some stupid quotage of Bono's in the paper; he's a shite-eater. However, unlike most "real" revolutionaries, I do not disdain real reform as it often alleviates *real* suffering, and that's important and not to be dismissed casually. Does it give the existing system some air of legitimacy? Yes, probably, but we're not going away and giving an illegitimate system a new air of legitimacy seems worth the gains secured in real reform. That is, short-term, that things keep going to shit in the streets is the *only* pressure for reform I can see. All the "real" revolutionaries disdain reform as counter-revolutionary, but that seems horribly first-world-centric; what's annoying about them is that they are often horribly first-world-centric while bashing others for being so. john> Well done to the protesters in all forms and methods they john> used. In the absence of strong leaders to defend the rights of john> citizens,.............. violent protest is a legitimate tool john> as a catalyst for change. Mankind has always needed to bleed a john> little before the more malignant aspects of society can be john> controlled,........in this case the Big Three B`s. Eh, as a way to bring about social change, I don't take a position between violent and nonviolent protest. But I also cannot condemn too strongly people in the streets who decide to defend themselves against police brutality. If the wankers at the top need us to play this little nonviolents-condemn-the-evil-violents in order to secure some reform, I'm willing to pay that price too. Wanting-revolution-but-enough-to-disdain-reform-ly yr's, Kendall