RE: Re: [MF:Apes] bush slur (sure)... (via /contact form)
Kendall Clark <kendall-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected]>
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>>>>> "jack" == Jack Bornstein <[email protected]> writes: >> If he had say "Japs", what would you think? >> >> Substitute other racial slurs and imagine the results. jack> Is "Pakistani" a race? Perhaps if it is compared to black, jack> hispanic, caucasian, etc. But when compared to "Indian" jack> (people from India, not Native American) I don't really jack> percieve a racial difference there. Perhaps using the word jack> ETHNIC instead of RACIAL would have been more fair. There is no such thing as "race", biologically speaking. It's a social construction, which is to say: "race" exists only as an element of social ideology in which it's thought to be grounded in biological fact. People use the term "racist" and "racial" to modify "slur" because it's a strong term of opprobium. So the term will continue to be used even if *no* one believes in the concept of race as biologically real, that is, if the role 'race' plays in social ideology changes, which is precisely what is happening. Biologically-based racisms have been and are mutating into cultural (or, you might prefer, "ethnic") racisms. No one's gonna switch to the term 'ethnicist', though, and that seems reasonable to me. (There's are two good essay about this knot of issues in an anthology, Race and Racism, edited by one of Bijan's professors at UNC, Bernard Boxill. I'll forward the citation if anyone's interested.) Plus, Pakistan and India *don't* neatly break down along ethnic lines. India is probably more ethnically diverse than any other state on earth (at least, I doubt there's any place *more* ethnically diverse; maybe the US...). We meant "racist slur" to suggest that Bush's actions were racist, and not to make any comment, one way or the other, about ethnicities, races, what's biological, what's social, and so on. I hope that helps. Kendall