Re: My query on the national peace movement

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 I thought I had responded about what I was told when I had dinner with a U=
NAC leader two weeks ago.  Sorry if I did not.

He said that there will be meetings happening and that a big demo is likely=
 to be called for the Spring.

Not very encouraging at all.

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Subject: [marxist] My query on the national peace movement


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The other day, I asked about theexistence of a bona fide national peace mov=
ement.  That was a reasonable inquiry, given the factthat the country is no=
w well into a new and fast broadening Iraq War.  It=E2=80=99s  now even mor=
e timely, at this moment inhistory, as Obama abrogates his latest of severa=
l pledgse to end U.S. militarycombat involvement in Afghanistan.
Aside from two comments onRedbadbear, which were essentially localized in n=
ature, I received no responsesto my query.  This would seem to bear outmy f=
eeling that the national peace movement ended =E2=80=93 at least for the ti=
me =E2=80=93when Barack Obama took office. Certainly, there are valiant loc=
al efforts and a few genuinely leftgroups that haven=E2=80=99t been co-opte=
d by Obama and the Democratic Party.
The broad silence in this country onthe peace issue is both tragic and dang=
erous. Hopefully, that will change as matters abroad are seen as more dire,=
U.S. military involvement is recognized as increasingly futile =E2=80=93 an=
d the fiscalexpenditures for the Wars rival the heights of the Rockies.
A very personal observation:  I came of radical age in early 1955.  Even wi=
th Red Scare fear and hysteria ragingacross this country, there was more ge=
nuinely radical activism =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cto the roots=E2=80=9Dstuff =E2=
=80=93 than the oft empty verbal militancy of today and the even morepervas=
ive silence.
H.

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<div> <font size=3D"2">I thought I had responded about what I was told when=
 I had dinner with a UNAC leader two weeks ago.&nbsp; Sorry if I did not.<b=
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He said that there will be meetings happening and that a big demo is likely=
 to be called for the Spring.<br>
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Not very encouraging at all.<br>
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To: bearwithoutborders &lt;[email protected]&gt;; marxi=
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Subject: [marxist] My query on the national peace movement<br>

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<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri">The other day, I asked about the
existence of a bona fide national peace movement.<span>&nbsp; </span>That w=
as a reasonable inquiry, given the fact
that the country is now well into a new and fast broadening Iraq War.<span>=
&nbsp; </span>It=E2=80=99s <span>&nbsp;</span>now even more timely, at this=
 moment in
history, as Obama abrogates his latest of several pledgse to end U.S. milit=
ary
combat involvement in Afghanistan.</font></span></b></div>

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<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri">Aside from two comments on
Redbadbear, which were essentially localized in nature, I received no respo=
nses
to my query.<span>&nbsp; </span>This would seem to bear out
my feeling that the national peace movement ended =E2=80=93 at least for th=
e time =E2=80=93
when Barack Obama took office.<span>&nbsp;
</span>Certainly, there are valiant local efforts and a few genuinely left
groups that haven=E2=80=99t been co-opted by Obama and the Democratic Party=
.</font></span></b></div>

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<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri">The broad silence in this country on
the peace issue is both tragic and dangerous.<span>&nbsp;
</span>Hopefully, that will change as matters abroad are seen as more dire,
U.S. military involvement is recognized as increasingly futile =E2=80=93 an=
d the fiscal
expenditures for the Wars rival the heights of the Rockies.</font></span></=
b></div>

<font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font>

<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri">A very personal observation:<span>&nbsp; </span>I came =
of radical age in early 1955.<span>&nbsp; </span>Even with Red Scare fear a=
nd hysteria raging
across this country, there was more genuinely radical activism =E2=80=93 =
=E2=80=9Cto the roots=E2=80=9D
stuff =E2=80=93 than the oft empty verbal militancy of today and the even m=
ore
pervasive silence.</font></span></b></div>

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nt face=3D"Calibri">H.</font></span></b></div>

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<div>
HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq / St. Francis Abenaki / =
St. Regis Mohawk=20
<br>


Protected by Na=C2=B4shdo=C2=B4i=C2=B4ba=C2=B4i=C2=B4=20
<br>


and Ohkwari' . Check out our massive social justice website:=20
<br>


<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.hunterbear.org">www.hunterbear.org<=
/a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>


Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO=20
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<br>


Core dimensions of my Community Organizing course:
<br>


<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.labornet.org/news/0000/hbear.htm">h=
ttp://www.labornet.org/news/0000/hbear.htm</a><br>


<br>


My expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"=20
<br>


JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new 10,000=20
<br>


word introduction by me. Covers much of my=20
<br>


confrontational social justice organizing life to=20
<br>


date. Contains much how-to grassroots organizing=20
<br>


methodology: <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm=
">http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm</a>
<br>



<br>


See this for mini-bio, efforts to prevent JM=E2=80=99s appearance in
<br>


Mississippi,  a wide range of its many reviews, and some
<br>


photos:   <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/John-R.-Salter=
/e/B001KMEHWY/ref=3Dntt_dp_epwbk_0">http://www.amazon.com/John-R.-Salter/e/=
B001KMEHWY/ref=3Dntt_dp_epwbk_0</a>
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<br>


The Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:=20
<br>


<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20a=
nd%20Dad.htm">http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm</a=
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