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From a promising RBB discussion.
Thank, Ken and Blue and Cornet.Perhaps we will hear from some others. (And =
as I post this, I see and appreciate Edward and Sam as well.)
In a little while, I Have some snowto handle =E2=80=93 but it=E2=80=99s not=
hing compared to other regions in the country.
The period in the United Statesbetween the Wounded Knee protests of 1973 an=
d the World Trade protests atSeattle in 1999, was the most arid epoch in th=
is country in the 20thcentury when it came to social justice movements. The=
Vietnam War and theformal draft ended.If the civil rightsmovement and that=
of organized labor had joined forces, it might have beenotherwise.But they=
did not.There was good activism around CentralAmerican issues =E2=80=93 bu=
t those efforts were limited in scope.There was little peace activism, say,=
aroundGreneda and the first Gulf War.
The WTO protests in =E2=80=9999 signaled anew activist epoch which built up=
rapidly around the election of Bush 2 and, inquick time, the launching of =
war against Afghanistan.The Iraq War fueled all of this rapidly.The diverse=
=E2=80=9Ctendencies=E2=80=9D delineated by Kencame together in a vital and=
vigorous peace movement =E2=80=93 movement -- which transcendedand also fu=
eled new local efforts. Thus there were continual mass demonstrations, much=
politicalaction, and some litigation =E2=80=93 the key dimensions in any s=
ocial justice movement=E2=80=93 and the approaches sorely needed now.While =
there was no formal draft, tough economic conditions for youngpeople were a=
key factor in swelling military enlistments and these still playthat role.=
A formal draft could come if the current wars continue into the muchfurthe=
r future and military enlistments shrink.
Obama=E2=80=99s election, while a big stepagainst American racism, was soon=
seen, by any reasonably astute observers, asa major chilling force when it=
came to mass social justice movements. Withinmonths after he took office, =
there began the still continuing and growingreversals of a number of his ca=
mpaignand subsequent promises and commitments.The =E2=80=9Cpeace president=
=E2=80=9D became a glib andwilling war president.It=E2=80=99s worth notingt=
hat some old line left organizations and persons in those traditions could =
notbring themselves to even criticize the =E2=80=9Cfirst African American P=
resident=E2=80=9D underany circumstance, nor can they even now.Other activi=
sts continued to =E2=80=9Chope=E2=80=9D for Obama with little foundation fo=
rdoing so.The once vital and militant national peace movement functionally =
died.
We will see a revival of massactivism in this country but it=E2=80=99s hard=
to predict the chronology at thispoint.It=E2=80=99s going to take work in =
therelated realms of organizing and mobilizing.Mobilization in its own righ=
t is easier, around =E2=80=9Chot=E2=80=9D issues, than basicgrassroots orga=
nizing.Mobilization cancertainly grow out of organizational structures, but=
, if it occurs on its own,it definitely needs to sink good organizational r=
oots as it proceeds forward.The late and great national American PeaceMovem=
ent failed to do that.
Best, H
HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq / St. Francis Abenaki / =
St. Regis Mohawk=20
Protected by Na=C2=B4shdo=C2=B4i=C2=B4ba=C2=B4i=C2=B4=20
and Ohkwari' . Check out our massive social justice website:=20
www.hunterbear.org=20
Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO=20
Core dimensions of my Community Organizing course:
http://www.labornet.org/news/0000/hbear.htm
My expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"=20
JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new 10,000=20
word introduction by me. Covers much of my=20
confrontational social justice organizing life to=20
date. Contains much how-to grassroots organizing=20
methodology: http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
See this for mini-bio, efforts to prevent JM=E2=80=99s appearance in
Mississippi, a wide range of its many reviews, and some
photos: http://www.amazon.com/John-R.-Salter/e/B001KMEHWY/ref=3Dntt_dp_epwb=
k_0
The Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:=20
http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm=20
(Photos)=20
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size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">From a promising RBB discussion.</font></span></b></p><font face=
=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">Thank, Ken and Blue and Cornet.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;">=
</span>Perhaps we will hear from some others. (And as I post this, I=
see and appreciate Edward and Sam as well.)</font></span></b></p><font fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">In a little while, I Have some snow
to handle =E2=80=93 but it=E2=80=99s nothing compared to other regions in t=
he country.</font></span></b></p><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">The period in the United States
between the Wounded Knee protests of 1973 and the World Trade protests at
Seattle in 1999, was the most arid epoch in this country in the 20<sup>th</=
sup>
century when it came to social justice movements. The Vietnam War and the
formal draft ended.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>If the =
civil rights
movement and that of organized labor had joined forces, it might have been
otherwise.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But they did not=
.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There was good activism a=
round Central
American issues =E2=80=93 but those efforts were limited in scope.<span sty=
le=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There was little peace activism, sa=
y, around
Greneda and the first Gulf War.</font></span></b></p><font face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">The WTO protests in =E2=80=9999 signaled a
new activist epoch which built up rapidly around the election of Bush 2 and=
, in
quick time, the launching of war against Afghanistan.<span style=3D"mso-spa=
cerun: yes;"> </span>The Iraq War fueled all of this rapidly.<span st=
yle=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The diverse =E2=80=9Ctendencies=E2=
=80=9D delineated by Ken
came together in a vital and vigorous peace movement =E2=80=93 movement -- =
which transcended
and also fueled new local efforts. Thus there were <span style=3D"mso-space=
run: yes;"> </span>continual mass demonstrations, much political
action, and some litigation =E2=80=93 the key dimensions in any social just=
ice movement
=E2=80=93 and the approaches sorely needed now.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
yes;">
</span>While there was no formal draft, tough economic conditions for young
people were a key factor in swelling military enlistments and these still p=
lay
that role. A formal draft could come if the current wars continue into the =
much
further future and military enlistments shrink.</font></span></b></p><font =
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">Obama=E2=80=99s election, while a big step
against American racism, was soon seen, by any reasonably astute observers,=
as
a major chilling force when it came to mass social justice movements. Withi=
n
months after he took office, there began the still continuing and growing
reversals of a <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>number of hi=
s campaign
and subsequent promises and <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span=
>commitments.
<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The =E2=80=9Cpeace pr=
esident=E2=80=9D became a glib and
willing war president.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It=
=E2=80=99s worth noting
that some old line left organizations and persons in those traditions could=
not
bring themselves to even criticize the =E2=80=9Cfirst African American Pres=
ident=E2=80=9D under
any circumstance, nor can they even now.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;">=
</span>Other activists continued to =E2=80=9Chope=E2=80=9D for Obama with l=
ittle foundation for
doing so.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The once vital an=
d militant <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>national peace m=
ovement functionally died.</font></span></b></p><font face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">We will see a revival of mass
activism in this country but it=E2=80=99s hard to predict the chronology at=
this
point.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It=E2=80=99s going t=
o take work in the
related realms of organizing and mobilizing.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: ye=
s;">
</span>Mobilization in its own right is easier, around =E2=80=9Chot=E2=80=
=9D issues, than basic
grassroots organizing.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Mobi=
lization can
certainly grow out of organizational structures, but, if it occurs on its o=
wn,
it definitely needs to sink good organizational roots as it proceeds forwar=
d.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The late and great natio=
nal American Peace
Movement failed to do that.</font></span></b></p><font face=3D"Times New Ro=
man" size=3D"3">
</font><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 8pt;"><b style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal;"><span style=3D"line-height: 107%; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Calibri">Best, H</font></span></b></p><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D"3">
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HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq / St. Francis Abenaki / =
St. Regis Mohawk=20
<br>
Protected by Na=C2=B4shdo=C2=B4i=C2=B4ba=C2=B4i=C2=B4=20
<br>
and Ohkwari' . Check out our massive social justice website:=20
<br>
www.hunterbear.org=20=20
<br>
Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO=20
<br>
<br>
Core dimensions of my Community Organizing course:
<br>
http://www.labornet.org/news/0000/hbear.htm
<br>
<br>
My expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"=20
<br>
JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new 10,000=20
<br>
word introduction by me. Covers much of my=20
<br>
confrontational social justice organizing life to=20
<br>
date. Contains much how-to grassroots organizing=20
<br>
methodology: http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
<br>
<br>
See this for mini-bio, efforts to prevent JM=E2=80=99s appearance in
<br>
Mississippi, a wide range of its many reviews, and some
<br>
photos: http://www.amazon.com/John-R.-Salter/e/B001KMEHWY/ref=3Dntt_dp_ep=
wbk_0
<br>
<br>
The Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:=20
<br>
http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm=20=20
<br>
(Photos)=20
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