Re: [marxmail] The Vatican, ‘Magnifica Humanitas” and AI - a Philosopher’s view

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Hari,

From my view as a poor laborer and life long activist that became aware and
of some knowledge, I have witnessed the continuing adapting by the stalinis=
ts
to continue and justify "control" instead of liberating workers

While i am not "anti-intellectual" in readily seeking knowledge, I am not o=
ne
whom being born in this awful world - to accept, adapt and conform to those
who claimed knowledge=C2=A0and insisted to be unquestioned.

Religious faith superstition was an area I sided as an oppressed person of,
to investigate and learn the actual history of the service of that mindset =
faith
for there to be monarchs, authoritarian rulers and capitalists exploiters w=
hom
were partners in slavery of People of Color and most all women,, as things
and acceptance of - as wrong. to have anything positive to reference, as
for those who state their humanity as leftists would have anything to state
or reference the ideologies of other fascists as Hitler and Mussolini views
and writings.

The Vatican holds the record for the most harm carried out by such a
business claiming to hear and follow some human concept of a god.

That Stalin failed as a human being in many ways, his supporters
accepted the backwardness and carrying out similar or worse examples.

So Hari - explain how the Vatican whom massacred millions and were
among their supporters the same church to support not only Hitler, and
so many fascists and colonialist harmers, to consider that of all the ideas=
,
writings and thoughts of many others than the Vatican, you seem to want

to share such faith falsehoods and propaganda=C2=A0- "to yourself rely on?"=
 or
for some political ideological purpose to expose as being used by the
rulers and wealthy to exploit and harm - as inconsistent with Marxist
ideology of class struggle against the rulers and exploiters and oppressors=
?

Why does the supporters of the Third and Second Internationals still feel
they have something to contribute about struggles today and the future?

Instead of expressing ones knowledge, as relationship with bourgeois academ=
ics,
you have gone further to discuss documents issued by this class enemy of th=
e
laboring class that I am with

It was not until the early 20th Century this church business had their pope=
 then
pronounce that a believer in their faith, would not go to hell as prior it =
was a
mortal sin to work for a republic, since that church business only recogniz=
ed
it was gods will that governments be ruled by monarchs (selected invibly=C2=
=A0by god).

This is the "relationship" to thid church business adapting to a forced rea=
lity
they provide ways for their believers keep staying with them - as the wotld
changes to advance and leave superstition behind (hopefully).

Do you want=C2=A0to justify this church business for the Inquisition, witch=
 burnings,
Black Plague deaths, starving of most in Europe in Year 1000 when told the
christ=C2=A0was returning so no need to farm, the massacre of a million Cat=
aris in
France and Italy, the Crusades and the list of harms and crimes is a very l=
ong
one.=C2=A0 =C2=A0To why claims of this religious business as "supportive of=
 workers" -
when this church supports rulers and wars and occupations to harm workers?

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hari,
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>From my view as a poor laborer and life long activist that became awar=
e and&nbsp;</div>
<div>of some knowledge, I have witnessed the continuing adapting by the sta=
linists</div>
<div>to continue and justify "control" instead of liberating workers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>While i am not "anti-intellectual" in readily seeking knowledge, I am =
not one</div>
<div>whom being born in this awful world - to accept, adapt and conform to =
those</div>
<div>who claimed knowledge&nbsp;and insisted to be unquestioned.&nbsp;</div=
>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Religious faith superstition was an area I sided as an oppressed perso=
n of,</div>
<div>to investigate and learn the actual history of the service of that min=
dset faith</div>
<div>for there to be monarchs, authoritarian rulers and capitalists exploit=
ers whom</div>
<div>were partners in slavery of People of Color and most all women,, as th=
ings</div>
<div>and acceptance of - as wrong. to have anything positive to reference, =
as</div>
<div>for those who state their humanity as leftists would have anything to =
state</div>
<div>or reference the ideologies of other fascists as Hitler and Mussolini =
views</div>
<div>and writings.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The Vatican holds the record for the most harm carried out by such a</=
div>
<div>business claiming to hear and follow some human concept of a god.</div=
>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That Stalin failed as a human being in many ways, his supporters</div>
<div>accepted the backwardness and carrying out similar or worse examples.<=
/div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;So Hari - explain how the Vatican whom massacred millions and we=
re</div>
<div>among their supporters the same church to support not only Hitler, and=
</div>
<div>so many fascists and colonialist harmers, to consider that of all the =
ideas,</div>
<div>writings and thoughts of many others than the Vatican, you seem to wan=
t</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>to share such faith falsehoods and propaganda&nbsp;- "to yourself rely=
 on?" or</div>
<div>for some political ideological purpose to expose as being used by the<=
/div>
<div>rulers and wealthy to exploit and harm - as inconsistent with Marxist<=
/div>
<div>ideology of class struggle against the rulers and exploiters and oppre=
ssors?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Why does the supporters of the Third and Second Internationals still f=
eel&nbsp;</div>
<div>they have something to contribute about struggles today and the future=
?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Instead of expressing ones knowledge, as relationship with bourgeois a=
cademics,</div>
<div>you have gone further to discuss documents issued by this class enemy =
of the</div>
<div>laboring class that I am with</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>It was not until the early 20th Century this church business had their=
 pope then</div>
<div>pronounce that a believer in their faith, would not go to hell as prio=
r it was a</div>
<div>mortal sin to work for a republic, since that church business only rec=
ognized</div>
<div>it was gods will that governments be ruled by monarchs (selected invib=
ly&nbsp;by god).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This is the "relationship" to thid church business adapting to a force=
d reality</div>
<div>they provide ways for their believers keep staying with them - as the =
wotld</div>
<div>changes to advance and leave superstition behind (hopefully).&nbsp;&nb=
sp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Do you want&nbsp;to justify this church business for the Inquisition, =
witch burnings,</div>
<div>Black Plague deaths, starving of most in Europe in Year 1000 when told=
 the</div>
<div>christ&nbsp;was returning so no need to farm, the massacre of a millio=
n Cataris in</div>
<div>France and Italy, the Crusades and the list of harms and crimes is a v=
ery long&nbsp;</div>
<div>one.&nbsp; &nbsp;To why claims of this religious business as "supporti=
ve of workers" -</div>
<div>when this church supports rulers and wars and occupations to harm work=
ers?</div>
</div>
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