Trump organizing legal version of January 6th
"John Reimann via groups.io" <[email protected]> Sun, 2 Aug 2026 04:29:15 -0700
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--0000000000009060e906580ebde3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" When our general conception of what is happening in the world is contradicted by the actual facts, then it's time to reconsider our general conception. This is one of those times. Marv Gandall writes: "Trump may try to contest the election, of course, but if anything the odds are less in his favour than on his previous attempt in 2020." He ignores what happened in 2020. He wanted to call out the National Guard on two separate occasions, first during the George Floyd protests and then after he lost the election. On both occasions, top officials in his administration opposed it and made clear that they would not obey. These included top military officials such as Mark Milley and Trump's AG, Bill Barr. Trump learned from that and made sure not to appoint any such types this time. All you have to do is look at his recent cabinet meeting to see that. Marv then comments on the numerous policies that the capitalist class is unhappy about and says that they won't allow Trump to steal the election because that would set him free to continue those and similar policies. He implies that the capitalist class won't "passively accept a fundamental assault on their sacred icon, the US Constitution." That's exactly the point! Passively or not, what has stopped Trump's assault so far and what force will stop him? The Supreme Court? We should never forget the immense significance of the MAGA majority's ruling that nothing Trump does or did while conducting his duties as president can be considered to be criminal. Think about that ruling. It means he can take a bribe from a foreign power to carry out a policy contrary to the interests of US capitalism and that is not illegal. He can order the murder of domestic opponents and that is not illegal. This unprecedented ruling is based on nothing in the law nor the constitution. The Supreme Court MAGA majority is not under the control of the capitalist class. What other institution can stop Trump? The US military brass? They are now led by a complete MAGA flunkey and the members of the US officer corps is famous for its looking towards their own careers first and foremost. It's possible that a layer of the NCO's could revolt, but not without a mass movement from below. I don't see that happening. All of which indicates what I've been writing about for a few years now: That what we face is a strong tendency towards Bonapartism. That's the general conception that Marv (and others) should consider. Under Bonapartism, the capitalist class loses its control over the Bonapartist. I don't think we are all the way there yet, but if Trump overturns the November election results, that will be a huge step - possibly a decisive one - in that direction. One last point: In general socialists have ignored Trump's attacks on the capitalist democratic institutions. These include the attacks on major capitalist law firms, on major universities and on the capitalist media. Socialists have also tended to ignore Trump's weaponization of the DOJ for his own personal interests. They have tended to ignore Trump's unprecedented corruption - the tens of millions of dollars the capitalist class has been forced to pay Trump - pure extortion. I think most socialists figure that's all within their class so why should we care? This method of thought is also inherent in the insistence that the Republican and Democratic parties are basically the same so we should never do anything to try to keep the Republicans - meaning Trump and his minions - out of office if the only alternative is the Democrats. Behind this super revolutionary view actually lies passivity. Joseph Green is right - it's "complacency to the hilt". It's time to wake up. John Reimann -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#42729): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42729 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/120549500/6024700 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --0000000000009060e906580ebde3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">When our general conception of what is happening in the wo= rld is contradicted by the actual facts, then it's time to reconsider o= ur general conception. This is one of those times. Marv Gandall writes: &qu= ot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Segoe UI&= quot;,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans","Liberat= ion Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe U= I Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji"">Tru= mp may try to contest the election, of course, but if anything the odds are= less in his favour than on his previous attempt in 2020." He ignores = what happened in 2020. He wanted to call out the National Guard on two sepa= rate=C2=A0occasions, first during the George Floyd protests and then after = he lost the election. On both occasions, top officials in his administratio= n=C2=A0opposed it and made clear that they would not obey. These included t= op military officials such as Mark Milley and Trump's AG, Bill Barr. Tr= ump learned from that and made sure not to appoint any such types this time= . All you have to do is look at his recent cabinet meeting to see that.</sp= an><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Sego= e UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans","Li= beration Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Se= goe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji"= "><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:syst= em-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto San= s","Liberation Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoj= i","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto C= olor Emoji"">Marv then comments on the numerous policies that the capi= talist class is unhappy about and says that they won't allow Trump to s= teal the election because that would set him free to continue those and sim= ilar policies. He implies that the capitalist class won't "</span>= <span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Segoe UI&quo= t;,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans","Liberation= Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI E= moji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";backgro= und-color:transparent">passively accept a fundamental assault on their sacr= ed icon, the US Constitution." That's exactly the point! Passively= or not, what has stopped Trump's assault so far and what force will st= op him? The Supreme Court? We should never forget the immense significance = of the MAGA majority's ruling that nothing Trump does or did while cond= ucting his duties as president can be considered to be criminal. Think abou= t that ruling. It means he can take a bribe from a foreign power to carry o= ut a policy contrary to the interests of US capitalism and that is not ille= gal. He can order the murder of domestic opponents and that is not illegal.= This unprecedented ruling is based on nothing in the law nor the constitut= ion. The Supreme Court MAGA majority is not under the control of the capita= list class.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family= :system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Not= o Sans","Liberation Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color= Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","N= oto Color Emoji";background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div><= span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Segoe UI"= ;,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans","Liberation = Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Em= oji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";backgrou= nd-color:transparent">What other institution can stop Trump? The US militar= y brass? They are now led by a complete MAGA flunkey and the members of the= US officer corps is famous for its looking towards their own careers first= and foremost. It's possible that a layer of the NCO's could revolt= , but not without a mass movement from below. I don't see that happenin= g.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-u= i,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans&qu= ot;,"Liberation Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&qu= ot;,"Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color= Emoji";background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div><span styl= e=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,= "Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans","Liberation Sans"= ;,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji"= ,"Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";background-color:= transparent">All of which indicates what I've been writing about for a = few=C2=A0years now: That what we face is a strong tendency towards Bonapart= ism. That's the general conception that Marv (and others) should consid= er. Under Bonapartism, the capitalist class loses its control over the Bona= partist. I don't think we are all the way there yet, but if Trump overt= urns the November election results, that will be a huge step - possibly a d= ecisive one - in that direction.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(= 51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica= Neue","Noto Sans","Liberation Sans",Arial,sans-se= rif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI= Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";background-color:transparent"><b= r></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-u= i,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans&qu= ot;,"Liberation Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&qu= ot;,"Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color= Emoji";background-color:transparent">One last point: In general socia= lists have ignored Trump's attacks on the capitalist democratic institu= tions. These include the attacks on major capitalist law firms, on major un= iversities and on the capitalist media. Socialists have also tended to igno= re Trump's weaponization of the DOJ for his own personal interests. The= y have tended to ignore Trump's unprecedented corruption - the tens of = millions of dollars the capitalist class has been forced to pay Trump - pur= e extortion. I think most socialists figure that's all within their cla= ss so why should we care? This method of thought is also inherent in the in= sistence that the Republican and Democratic parties are basically the same = so we should never do anything to try to keep the Republicans - meaning Tru= mp and his minions - out of office if the only alternative is the Democrats= . Behind this super revolutionary view actually lies passivity. Joseph Gree= n is right - it's "complacency to the hilt".<br><br>It's = time to wake up.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-f= amily:system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",&quo= t;Noto Sans","Liberation Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple = Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol",&q= uot;Noto Color Emoji";background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><= div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:system-ui,"Segoe UI= ",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Noto Sans","Libera= tion Sans",Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe = UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";bac= kground-color:transparent">John Reimann</span></div></div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> =20 You receive all messages sent to this group. =20 =20 <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42729">Vi= ew/Reply Online (#42729)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe:%20%5= Bmarxmail%5D%20Trump%20organizing%20legal%20version%20of%20January%206th">R= eply to Group</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DP= rivate:%20Re:%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Trump%20organizing%20legal%20version%20of%= 20January%206th">Reply to Sender</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/120549500/6024700">Mute= This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/post">New Topic</a> <br> <hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%">POSTING RULES & NOTES<br /> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br /> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br /> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.<br /> #4 Do not exceed five posts a day.<hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%"= > <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/editsub/6024700">Your Subscription<= /a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/x= yzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --0000000000009060e906580ebde3--