Re: List of questions (was: Re: [ox-en] No more money trickery propaganda please)

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hi Stefan,

thats really an interesting posting and one good basis to work on. thx for  
that.

> Relationship to money
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>
> How can the relationship between peer production and the still
> dominant system of money can be understood? What are ways of
> coexistence not damaging peer production? What are models to pour
> money into peer production projects without damaging them? What are
> goals of such pouring?

that is my focus of attention and ive been experimenting with it in the
areas of organising events, making videos and most recently the production
of (advertising) items. the productive output was generally quite good
in terms of quality (guests graded the events very favourably, current
video grade is 3.71 of 5 at metacafe.com); the "minor" thing that didnt
work was the
involvement - or more specifically - the payout of money as the projects
did not raise enough.

anyone got some insights, links or references to articles or blogs on that
specific topic?

mozilla is very successful (in terms of market share) and they had last
year a budget of more than 70 million (largely coming from google). there
are lots of add ons available - free and commercial. so to me it seems its
not impossible to combine extrinsic with intrinsic motivation and
achieving quite some quality output that challenges existing commercial
projects also in terms of market share.

> More Selbstentfaltung
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>
> Some tasks which are societal useful are hard to conceptualize as
> Selbstentfaltung - see `"How is the toilet cleaned?"`_ for an
> instance. What means do exist to make them Selbstentfaltung?

i would also make a distinction/grading according to the levels of
interest of the tasks. writing code certainly is the most interesting -
but even in open source projects there are lots of things (writing
documentation, bug fixing, beta testing) that, im sure, are only done
because they are necessary and not because they are really wanted
"natively" by the developer/user.

depends on how you define
"selbstentfaltung". personally, i dont call something "selbstentfaltung"
when you do tasks because you have to as the project needs it. my
take is that even in open source projects, there is quite some amount of
tasks that are only done because they are needed. and in the real, well
organised world there are trillions of such tasks outthere where cleaning
the toilet is just the top of the ice berg.
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