Re: [ox-en] FW: [spectre] Pirates at the Parliament: the big dream?! - An Interview with Magnus Eriksson from Piratebyran

Stefan Merten <[email protected]>
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Hi list!

5 days ago Mathieu O'Neil wrote:
> Magnus Eriksson:
[...]
> Anyway, I noticed that 
> Pirate Party is seen as left-wing or anarchist even in some places. This is 
> simply not true. They have a narrow program about reforming copyright and 
> patent, stop surveillence and keep the net open. Not small things of course,
> 
> but that's it, call it what you want. If anyone want to connect this to 
> other kinds of politics, it can be done, but you have to connect to them 
> with an external relation. "Pirate Party does this in the EU, to us this is 
> very connected to this other issue". Maybe this sounds strange for someone 
> coming from the very polarized italian political environment, but here it 
> works very well to do it in this project or issue driven, pragmatic way. To 
> collaborate with people on some projects where on other projects it would be
> 
> impossible because you would totally disagree. I mean even the guys running 
> the Pirate Bay don't agree on shit except that they want to run a bittorrent
> 
> tracker.

And especially:

> I'm not too keen on cathegorizing the complex movements of politics but in a
> 
> way it is beyond left and right. Not because it's some kind of neutral 
> politics of the middle but the range of supporters and antagonists are all 
> over the political spectrum and a failure of handling these issues within 
> the traditional political actors. Dominant parties on both left and right 
> are working for more surveillence. The issue of copyright is both defended 
> and attacked from both sides. We enjoy this confusion at the moment because 
> it opens up new political spaces and thinking, something which is 
> desperately needed. So maybe it's not apolitical, but omnipolitical.
[...]

Well, IMHO there are two possible interpretations of this mismatch to
the classical left-right scheme:

* Pirate Party is a single issue party

  For a single issue party it is quite easy to fit nowhere well into
  the left-right scheme. And clearly the Pirate Party - so far - is a
  single issue party.

  I remember that the Green party said very similar things when they
  started. In fact in Germany it was a combination of old communists
  and people concerned about the environment with sometimes very
  conservative mind-sets.

* Pirate Party expresses and represents a new mode of production

  Well, given the program at the moment this is of course not the
  case. But the Pirate Party in it's current state could be seen as a
  precursor of a real party which represents the social movement of
  peer production in the parliaments.

  And such a party which represents a new mode of production would
  easily fall outside the left-right scheme - because the left-right
  scheme is part of the old system.


						Grüße

						Stefan
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