Re: free vs. common (was: Re: [ox-en] A name for a peer-production-based society?)

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> > you can duplicate software endlessly (if not copyright)
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> > you cannot duplicate fish in a pond forever
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> Both are constrained by the physical sources required for hosting.
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that is only theoretical speculation

in practice every people in the world, once connected and with a computer,
could download almost everything he/she wishes


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> Neither software nor fish can exist unless hosted on a physical medium.
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yes, but physical medium for computers and connections allready exists or
could exist for the people included in info soc.



> You might say software is silicon-based while fish are carbon-based.
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we have enough silicon for everyone, but not enough fish



> In both cases here are real limits to the number of copies because of
> the physical constraints of:
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> 1. space: you can only store so many.
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we have exponential growing digital density


> 2. time: creating each copy takes more than 0 seconds
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exponential decreasing


> 3. mass: each copy must reside on a mineral substrate.
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exponential growing density


> 4. energy: ultimately mostly the sun
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we have enough for all computers we can imagine, also decreasing consumption

in real life we have not real limits



> The only real difference is in the speed at which the duplication can
> occur.
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> It is quite possible to allow fish to duplicate themselves
> (self-unfold) to trillions of copies.
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it happens, but no at enough velocity, because growth limits.



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> It is just as realistic to consider trillions of CDs or DVDs full of
> software.
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we dont need cd or dvd, but we have more than we need



> In both cases there is no limit in potential, but there is a very
> definite ceiling on the number of copies you can finally instantiate
> into the physical world.



yes, but now we have  costly fish and cheap bits.





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Diego Saravia
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