A Jump Into The Unknown
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Jumping Into the Unknown
Stevie Smith (The Tech Herald.com
wrote -2009-):
Could LHC black holes still carry an Earthly threat?
New claims concerning the controversial Large Hadron Collider (LHC)
particle accelerator have this week suggested that microscopic black
holes created by the gigantic atom-smashing machine could, contrary to
official safety reports, will not vanish quite as quickly as they
form.
Moreover, a group of physicists have scrutinised the mathematic
processes involved in operating the 27-kilometre ringed accelerator
and determined that any resulting black holes will not simply
disappear from existence a mere millisecond after being created, which
is the line LHC scientists are holding to.
According to Roberto Casadio of the University of Bologna in Italy and
Sergio Fabi and Benjamin Harms of the University of Alabama in the
United States, miniscule black holes spawned by the collider could
exist for up to a second or longer.
The physicists believe this length of time, an eternity when it comes
to particle physics, could then potentially allow the black holes to
struggle for growth increase as opposed to merely decaying in an
instant a struggle the teams theoretical model shows they ultimately
would not win.
While Casadio, Fabi and Harms concede that planet-threatening growth
is highly unlikely, with any created black holes passing harmlessly
beyond the atmosphere before disappearing completely, they have
offered that current safety claims are inaccurate.
We conclude that the growth of black holes to catastrophic size does
not seem possible, they outlined through a paper posted to scientific
discussion forum ArXiv.org. Nonetheless, it remains true that the
expected decay times are much longer than is typically predicted by
other models.
The European Centre for Nuclear Research (CERN) team behind the LHC
particle accelerator, which is buried deep under the Swiss/French
border, is hoping the mighty machine will enable them to re-create,
study, and understand conditions in the universe at the very point of
its creation.
The Large Hadron Collider, the worlds largest particle accelerator,
suffered a mechanical failure when it was officially fired up in the
latter half of 2008. Following a frustrating period of repair, CERN
scientists are expected to resume smashing protons at velocities
approaching the speed of light this coming spring.
**** Remarks from SaneScienceOrg: ****
...
Zealous, jealous, Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other
and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed 'Higgs Boson'(aka
God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the
annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping
to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The
European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) Large Hadron
Collider (LHC) is the world's most powerful atom smasher that will soon
be firing groups of billions of heavy subatomic particles at each
other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs
producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets, AntiMatter and other
potentially cataclysmic phenomena as described below.
Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end
forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and
costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and
unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing
science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these
same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and
with your life. Einstein used Astronomy to prove his landmark general
theory of relativity that, ironically, decribes, among other things,
the Black Holes which the LHC is designed to produce at the hoped for
rate of one per second.
The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De R=FAjula in
the BBC LHC documentary, 'The Six Billion Dollar Experiment',
incredibly admits quote, 'Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC?
That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what
we do when we don't know what we're doing.' And CERN spokesmodel Brian
Cox follows with this stunning quote, 'the LHC is certainly, by far,
the biggest jump into the unknown.'
The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: 'There are many theories
as to what will result from these collisions,...' Again, this is
because they truly don't know what's going to happen. They are
experimenting with forces they don't understand to obtain results they
can't comprehend. If you think like most people do that 'They must
know what they're doing' you could not be more wrong. Some people
think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of
comparison and example from JAMA: 'A recent Institute of Medicine
report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000
and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals.' The second part of the CERN
quote reads '...but what's for sure is that a brave new world of
physics will emerge from the new accelerator,...' A molecularly
changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote
reads '...as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the
workings of the Universe.' These experiments to date have so far
produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn't a
particle physicist alive who wouldn't gladly trade his life to glimpse
the 'God particle', and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and
common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any
potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits.
This quote from National Geographic, 'The hunt for the God particle',
exactly sums this 'science' up: 'If all goes right, matter will be
transformed by the violent collisions into wads of energy, which will
in turn condense back into various intriguing types of particles, some
of them never seen before. That's the essence of experimental particle
physics: 'You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes
out.'
(END)
-- from - The Tech Herald.com
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200905/2869/Could-LHC-
black-holes-still-carry-an-Earthly-threat
What do you suppose will happen?
The speed of light is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second. At LHC,
protons will smash into each other at 299,792,454.9 meters per second,
99.99999898% the speed of light, Assume all that energy produces black
holes. Suppose as protons smash into each other they produce millions of
black holes and they all MERGE. Suppose also that Hawking evaporation,
which is just as THEORY is false. What do you suppose will happen next?
HR
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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<p><br>
Jumping Into the Unknown<br>
<br>
Stevie Smith (The Tech Herald.com<br>
wrote -2009-):<br>
<br>
Could LHC black holes still carry an Earthly threat?<br>
<br>
New claims concerning the controversial Large Hadron Collider (LHC)<br>
particle accelerator have this week suggested that microscopic black<br=
>
holes created by the gigantic atom-smashing machine could, contrary to<=
br>
official safety reports, will not vanish quite as quickly as they<br>
form.<br>
<br>
Moreover, a group of physicists have scrutinised the mathematic<br>
processes involved in operating the 27-kilometre ringed accelerator<br>
and determined that any resulting black holes will not simply<br>
disappear from existence a mere millisecond after being created, which<=
br>
is the line LHC scientists are holding to.<br>
<br>
According to Roberto Casadio of the University of Bologna in Italy and<br>
Sergio Fabi and Benjamin Harms of the University of Alabama in the<br>
United States, miniscule black holes spawned by the collider could<br>
exist for up to a second or longer.<br>
<br>
The physicists believe this length of time, an eternity when it comes<br>
to particle physics, could then potentially allow the black holes to<br=
>
struggle for growth increase as opposed to merely decaying in an<br>
instant a struggle the teams theoretical model shows they ultimately<br=
>
would not win.<br>
<br>
While Casadio, Fabi and Harms concede that planet-threatening growth<br>
is highly unlikely, with any created black holes passing harmlessly<br>
beyond the atmosphere before disappearing completely, they have<br>
offered that current safety claims are inaccurate.<br>
<br>
We conclude that the growth of black holes to catastrophic size does<br>
not seem possible, they outlined through a paper posted to scientific<b=
r>
discussion forum ArXiv.org. Nonetheless, it remains true that the<br>
expected decay times are much longer than is typically predicted by<br>
other models.<br>
<br>
The European Centre for Nuclear Research (CERN) team behind the LHC<br>
particle accelerator, which is buried deep under the Swiss/French<br>
border, is hoping the mighty machine will enable them to re-create,<br>
study, and understand conditions in the universe at the very point of<b=
r>
its creation.<br>
<br>
The Large Hadron Collider, the worlds largest particle accelerator,<br>
suffered a mechanical failure when it was officially fired up in the<br=
>
latter half of 2008. Following a frustrating period of repair, CERN<br>
scientists are expected to resume smashing protons at velocities<br>
approaching the speed of light this coming spring.<br>
<br>
**** Remarks from SaneScienceOrg: ****<br>
...<br>
Zealous, jealous, Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other<b=
r>
and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed 'Higgs Boson'(aka<b=
r>
God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the<br>
annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping<br=
>
to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The<br=
>
European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) Large Hadron<br>
Collider (LHC) is the world's most powerful atom smasher that will soon=
<br>
be firing groups of billions of heavy subatomic particles at each<br>
other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs<br>
producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets, AntiMatter and other<br>
potentially cataclysmic phenomena as described below.<br>
<br>
Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end<br>
forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and<b=
r>
costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and<br>
unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing<=
br>
science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these<=
br>
same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and<br>
with your life. Einstein used Astronomy to prove his landmark general<b=
r>
theory of relativity that, ironically, decribes, among other things,<br=
>
the Black Holes which the LHC is designed to produce at the hoped for<b=
r>
rate of one per second.<br>
<br>
The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De R=FAjula in<br>
the BBC LHC documentary, 'The Six Billion Dollar Experiment',<br>
incredibly admits quote, 'Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC?<b=
r>
That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what<br=
>
we do when we don't know what we're doing.' And CERN spokesmodel Brian<=
br>
Cox follows with this stunning quote, 'the LHC is certainly, by far,<br=
>
the biggest jump into the unknown.'<br>
<br>
The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: 'There are many theories<br>
as to what will result from these collisions,.<wbr>..' Again, this is<b=
r>
because they truly don't know what's going to happen. They are<br>
experimenting with forces they don't understand to obtain results they<=
br>
can't comprehend. If you think like most people do that 'They must<br>
know what they're doing' you could not be more wrong. Some people<br>
think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of<br>
comparison and example from JAMA: 'A recent Institute of Medicine<br>
report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000<=
br>
and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals.' The second part of the CERN<=
br>
quote reads '...but what's for sure is that a brave new world of<br>
physics will emerge from the new accelerator,<wbr>...' A molecularly<br=
>
changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote<br>
reads '...as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the<br>
workings of the Universe.' These experiments to date have so far<br>
produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn't a<br>
particle physicist alive who wouldn't gladly trade his life to glimpse<=
br>
the 'God particle', and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and<b=
r>
common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any<br>
potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits.<br>
<br>
This quote from National Geographic, 'The hunt for the God particle',<br>
exactly sums this 'science' up: 'If all goes right, matter will be<br>
transformed by the violent collisions into wads of energy, which will<b=
r>
in turn condense back into various intriguing types of particles, some<=
br>
of them never seen before. That's the essence of experimental particle<=
br>
physics: 'You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes<br>
out.'<br>
<br>
(END)<br>
<br>
-- from - The Tech Herald.com<br>
<br>
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ould-LHC-</a><br>
black-holes-<wbr>still-carry-<wbr>an-Earthly-<wbr>threat<br>
<br>
What do you suppose will happen?<br>
<br>
The speed of light is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second. At LHC,<br>
protons will smash into each other at 299,792,454.<wbr>9 meters per second,=
<br>
99.99999898% the speed of light, Assume all that energy produces black<br>
holes. Suppose as protons smash into each other they produce millions of<br=
>
black holes and they all MERGE. Suppose also that Hawking evaporation,<br>
which is just as THEORY is false. What do you suppose will happen next?<br>
<br>
HR<br>
<br>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
<br>
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